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Dave Parrack has typed up a blog entry with concerns toward the big "Console War" we've all come to know and enjoy poking fun at.
He believes that with the Wii, Nintendo is about to change the face of this war forever and it's all due to casual gaming. The Wii is bringing out a lot of "casual games" and proving that to succeed in the market you don't have to have the most brilliant graphics or epic games, it's simply about providing the customers fun in a simple way.
Sony and Microsoft are doing similar, of course. By moving away from just gaming to alternate media such as television and music, it's no longer just about the provision of the best gaming. The way to win the war has become to offer more, what could this spell for the future? Concerns are that the sort of technology being offered by the Wii can be implemented in the upcoming set top box. Does it perhaps spell the death of consoles altogether?
Casual games could be about to signal the end of games consoles as we know it, because the future is likely going to see us all having set-top boxes that provide us with digital television, movie downloads, and games in the one package.
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The Wii has proved that building a successful games machine isnt about increasing the graphical capabilities or throwing new technology at the task. Instead, games can be enjoyed by more people by staying simple and fun. And if thats the case, who needs a games console?
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- Could Wii casual gaming signal the end for games consoles? (gonintendo.com)
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do you realise that casual gamers,being roped into gaming by Nintendo...could eventually...BECOME HARDCORE GAMERS!!!!
and wtf are you talking about "Nintendo's next console will be over-priced and underpowered"?
where the hell did you get that information?
Nintendo stated they were going for the best of the best HD next round with harddrives and bringing their classica IPs with them.
A Fad?? AHAHAHA. you're too funny. someone posted a GG article where basically everyone agreed if the Wii was a fad, then it would've stopped selling greatly after one year. well, its almost the Wii's second birthday and its at, at least, 32 million, xbox already being 3 1/2 year old now, at 20+ mil, and PS3, 2 days older than Wii, at 15 million.
you should think by now, that if wii was a fad and it was horrible, people would stop buying it?
well if you don't think that then you are really stupid. fads don't last 2+ years.
I'm at equality in the Console Wars since i own all 3 and every system made by each company(nes,snes,n64,ps1,ps2,gcn,xbox,PS3,360 and Wii). working on SEGA and Atari atm...
its funny how there is always hate between PS3 and 360 owners, along with everyone against Wii. each and every system has their flaws. *bleep* fanboys unless you can use logic to counter argue the truth.
It took Beanie babies a few years to die too......it's just a fad. I'm not hating or favoring anything when I say that. Don't take it as an insult, it being a fad is what sold those 32mil consoles. People wanted to keep up with the Jones's as usual.
If Nintendo can keep the fad going, good on them.....but they're going to have an uphill battle if they keep letting the shovelware crap onto their system.
I REALY miss seeing these type of adds.
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They continue to sell because people either pre-ordered ages ago or simply decided they wanted to get one some time ago and just happened to find one available. Funny to see you talking about using "logic" when you have had none to support your little "fanboy" rant in the first place.
It's not called fanboyism if the person has a genuine opinion of a product they own. That's like calling someone a fanboy if they buy a new Toaster and happen to dislike the way it cooks bread.
Overpriced, probably not. Most Nintendo consoles are pretty cheap. Underpowered, definitely. Sometimes, though, it's best to stick to basics and not have stunning graphics... even though the Wii's is capable to that of a PS2's.
The Wii is definitely a fad. It's a very successful fad. Next generation, they'll have a new fad that we'll gape at for a few months before we realize it's also shit, and then we shall await for the fad following that, as we we're a bunch of manipulative hamsters.
Also, the Wii is still being continuously bought because A) it's young, and B) there are so few of them, the first time someone sees one they'll go berserk to get it.
*Most users here on GameGrep are hardcore gamers, so are obviously going to support Hardcore gaming.
*The collection of you do not equal the 30million of casuals out there who DO enjoy it. Its no fad. Its clever marketing and selection of games on offer. Kudos to Nintendo, business is business, and they are raking it in.
Noone ever critiques Sony or Microsoft for reaching out towards the casual gamer. God forbid Nintendo make it their centrepoint..
I don't see video games consoles ever becoming a box on top of your TV which does several other key functions, as if the companies would ever let that happen. As for casual gaming, it's just a smart marketing strategy to appeal to those that would play video games but never had the chance because they're not hardcore gamers.
After Nintendo's promise after promise that they will make more "hardcore" games, support third-party developers and improve their online support ... they still haven't done anything. Jee, wonder why Wii owners are complaining?
Take away Nintendo's casual sales (Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, etc), and I wonder how far ahead in the "war" their console would really be? They're doing exactly the same thing they did in the Gamecube era, except rather than "fixing" the problems that faced them last generation they found an easier way to make money and lead the competition - Casual games.
If Nintendo keep this up into the next generation, I can't imagine "hardcore" fans sticking around for it all over again. Though I don't suppose they'll cry over the loss of any of their old "hardcore" fans.
So called "Casual" games (I still don't see where the line drew in the sand is, A game is a game... Truly if I was to define a hardcore game, it would have to be a MMORPG where you have to spend 40 hours a week to keep up) are where the money is, take Sims and to a lesser extent Spore. Even Sony and Microsoft have jumped on the bandwagon as of late.
Nintendo are in it for the money like any other buisness, I assume their logic is. One "hardcore" gamer lost is nothing when you have 20 "casual" customers replacing them. Sales are king, unfortnately customer loyaly being reawrded is always an after thought. After all if you are not selling you have no loyal customers to reward. I also think people are missing the big picture, Nintendo seem to be hording assets at the moment. I'd imagine they have something big up their extremly wealthy slevee.
Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft... None of these companies owe you anything.
Hell I hardly ever play on my Wii. I do enjoy it when I do though. I'm a PC gamer at heart though.
The Wii isn't a Fad. It's a trend.
No they don't. Nintendo are Penny-Pinchers. They'll just produce the next redesigned handheld with a new gimmick attached to it.
wow, you've actually looked past Nintendo's BS parade to finally realize that. I'm proud of you.
It seems either people are finally coming to the light, or there's some hypocrites out there.
Anyway lets get something clear, nintendo is only succeeding in the market with the CONSOLE SALES. Not game sales, which is really where the money lies. Just because nintendo has 32 million console sales world wide doesn't mean they're actually do great. In fact as Fatal Error stated, they have the worst attachment rate and the horrible third party support. Thats a prime reason where the Wii isn't doing great.
Lets get to the game department. As I said before there is at least 7 MUST BUY games on the Wii at the moment, at most probably 10. Where as if you combined the PS3 and 360 you could literally find quadruple amount of MUST BUY titles on those systems, which is around 40-50.
And how about the incredibly amount of shovelware that gets made and place on the shelves at the store? They aren't great and just pisses nintendo fans, like me, off. Developers see the Wii as a system where they don't need to put any real effort into the game, ends up making it mediocre at best and thinking "Hey lets just make this game with no real effort. Not only will it save us money, but it will land us 3x the amount of money gained cause the Wii owners will buy it regardless of it sucking".
Thats what the mentality seems to be. No real effort.
And then lets get to marketing. Instead of marketing games like Fatal Frame 4 which is so deserving of it, Nintendo makes Wii Music another shitty excuse for game, and markets 32 videos of this like its some great facet of game?
When its clear from the videos of those, its incredible boring, lame and poor excuse of a game. But unfortunately people will end up buying it, continuing the vicious cycle of more Shovelware being produced, and long time members like me getting pissed off.
Oh speaking about games, what about Nintendo constantly not making brand new franchise titles for the Wii, and instead rather milk old games like Mario. And this also continues the shitty game lineup which Wii owners have to deal with.
Oh Gothic Girl already touched on the failed promises of bringing more hardcore games to the Wii.
So yes, the Wii is a fad, selling a crazy amount of consoles, yes, but nonetheless a fad. And it seems to me the lineup for the PS3 and 360 this holiday season completely kills anything Nintendo has going for it.
Bottom line is, if Nintendo doesn't change their ways, not only will they lose fans of the system back in the NES and SNES years, but will also lose this "Casual" Crowd they've been getting currently.
And yes I have played a Wii, I don't personally own one, my Sister does however. And I can't even began to say how uninterested I am with the system since Brawl or something. The only game I have yet to play, which I do want, is Fatal Frame 4. But thats it. They have done nothing as of late to get me excited to play Wii games. The more I see Nintendo, the more I get pissed about them.
Would it kill you to make brand new franchises Nintendo?
Or bring in more Hardcore games the Wii actually lacks?
Funny how I'm "talking shit" for calling you out. Talking shit would be reminding you that you have no friends.
Aight. Read it, and pretty much agree with everything you say.
Taking on the PS2 and Xbox in a different and unique manner worked. Good on Nintendo. Of course, I see it from the "First-time-nintendo-product-perspective", so everyone will differ.
Good on them for what they have done so far. I enjoy their titles, and whilst they have a lot of shovelware, their strong titles are very good.
And although that was a while ago, it still stands today.
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