That's right, this is a challenge to all of you gamers out there who, in the past, have become emotional to the point of tears over a video game. Chris Bateman of blog.ihobo.com has put up a blog detailing his argument as to why it's not possible for a game to evoke such emotions. His answer, it's the story.

For a long time, the games industry debated the question of whether a videogame could make you cry. But as I hope to demonstrate, this question is either irrelevant, or a game never has nor never could make you cry.

Games (under the systems view) cannot make you cry. Videogame titles can include narrative material that makes you cry, but no-one can claim to be surprised that a story can make you cry. Barring some serious change in what constitutes a videogame, the only way they are ever going to make you cry is via their narrative elements, and never by their game elements.
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  • 2
    PacoDG Dec 14, 08
    A quote from the article:

    "Story has to be excluded, because by the process of empathising with fictional characters it is possible to evoke any emotion in a story."

    First, they (according to Firefox spellcheck), wrote "empathising" wrong.

    Second, if you exclude story from the games as an example on why you wouldn't cry from them, would you not have to also remove story from movies that make you cry as well? Story from a song that make you cry? If you take away the story from any form of art and/or entertainment, of course you will more than likely feel emotionless to it, video games are just another vehicle people use to express a story.

    I can't believe I just read that whole article, what a video game hater that person must be.
    • 0
      RabidChinaGirl* Dec 20, 08
      First, don't rely on Firefox to be your spelling guru. It's proper UK spelling.

      Second, guess he just doesn't perceive video games as some passionate gamers might. His argument isn't very strong, but he has the right to... not cry, I guess. It IS a blog post though, so what can you expect, eh?
  • 0
    Miss Razz Dec 14, 08
    It's past midnight here so maybe I'm tired and didn't read the article correctly, but isn't this guy stating the obvious? Duh it's the story that makes people cry.

    He's written such a long and descriptive blog, but in the end it's common sense.
  • 0
    black doom Dec 14, 08
    I am sure someone somewhere was reduced to tears by the spire in Fable II does that count?
  • 0
    Dramon Knight Dec 14, 08
    Course people can cry over videogames, that really is stupid to say they can't.

    This Chris Bateman guy needs to have more empathy.
  • 0
    Raziel_326 Dec 14, 08
    To be honest, I actually felt a little emotional on MGS4's epilogue.
  • 0
    bloodyomen Dec 14, 08
    The only thing that can make you cry in a game is it's story, and even then it's unlikely for someone to cry.

    Personally, I was close to a tear when I first saw the ending for Ocarina of Time, but that was when I was like six years old.
  • 0
    JacqueseVonRIP Dec 14, 08
    Sometimes I cry and get angry when I keep dying on a hard level
    Seriously though, what a dumb ass. Of course its the damn story that makes you cry. But since the story is part of the game, yes, games do make you cry.
    Unguard *bleep*
  • 3
    McClubbin Dec 14, 08
    Oh come on! Honestly, you expect me to believe that Nintendo fanboys didn't shed a single tear when they first booted up SSBB?! Because I'm sure some of them must have cried in disappointment after a few hours into it.
    • 2
      PacoDG Dec 14, 08
      The first tears were of nostalgia.

      The next set of tears was the shoddy online.
      • 0
        black doom Dec 14, 08
        I don't get why people are so harsh on Brawl. I think it is like Fable II. Totally different from the prior game, probably for the worse, but still savage in all.
        • 0
          Dramon Knight Dec 14, 08
          Yeah exactly, Brawl isn't as good but it isn't a total load of shit, people wouldn't wan to talk anything about it if it was.
  • 1
    Zero and X Dec 14, 08
    How many grown men openly admitted to weeping when Aeris died? Thats what I thought.
    • 0
      BANDITO ATTACK Dec 14, 08
      lol that terrible cutscene. the crappy 14-ish polygon models ruined any affect the scene may have had.
      • 1
        Miss Razz Dec 14, 08
        It's Aerith's theme-song that plays after she died that always makes me feel a bit emotional. Perfectly timed.
      • 2
        Zero and X Dec 15, 08
        Wtf? You're bashing a PSone game for graphical limitations!? Thats like bitching at Yogi Bear for stealing picnic baskets!
    • 0
      Final Blade Dec 15, 08
      I'm 22, and I'll admit I cried a little to video games, One being Aeris, another time in FF8, but that was for others reasons....

      I also cried at the end of KH, cause it was sad after all that Work Sora went through not only did he not save Kairi and Riku and go back to Destiny Island, he has to do the process all over again.
    • 0
      Deathsythe Dec 15, 08
      To this day I admit that fact.
      Between the background behind it, the music, the setting, everything was just perfect.

      Even when I replay VII, I still get a bit emotional at that scene, and the cutscene after.

      • 1
        Koloth* Dec 15, 08
        I suppose Ilm the only player that hated Aeris so much that when she died I just completely didn't care. I felt no attachment to her, no empathy toward her. And I never used her in my party. I think she was maybe level 10 when I got to that part. So I just didn't care. I was probably more shocked than upset.

        Now the space rescue of Rinoa in FF8 that bought a tear to my eye. Because that time I actually cared about the characters. Rinoa's plight was quite upsetting and no one had to die to accomplish it.
        • 1
          Final Blade Dec 15, 08
          I'm the opposite, I hated Rinoa. She was a bitch, annoying, and manipulative and many more. I really did wish she'd died tbh. But meh.
        • 1
          Zero and X Dec 17, 08
          How was she a bitch!? Rinoa was a nice girl. She may have been manipulative at first but not for the majority of the game. Well, whatever, I liked her and I agree with Koloth in that it isn't necessary for someone to die in order to get emotional over the characters. However I didn't hate Aeris, but I didn't particularly like her either, so I can't say anything about her.
  • 0
    Kanon_fan Dec 14, 08
    Guy's who let the *bleep* write an article?

    Really, plenty of people have said it, of course its the story that make people cry, not just for video games, for just about everything fictional, freeking ejit.

    'Side's, some games can get so frustratingly difficult people will actually cry. Bloody moron
    • 1
      Zero and X Dec 14, 08
      I Wanna Be The Guy almost brought me to tears from its difficulty.....
  • 1
    Capn Droid Dec 14, 08
    I lol'd @ WiiMusic tag.
    --
    • 0
      Dark Arcanine Dec 15, 08
      It's serious business, depressing game. ;.;
  • 0
    Killosity Dec 14, 08
    Naomi Hunters death.
    R.I.P <3

    THAT WAS SAD.
  • 0
    RabidChinaGirl* Dec 14, 08
    Never cried over a game. Aeris' death was a blessing because I didn't want to keep leveling her anymore.

    Gears of War 2 and Fable II came close recently. But the closest I've come to crying over a game was over Okami and Shadow of the Colossus.

    This guy is free to have his own opinions, though I'm sure he's wrong in the sense that somewhere out there, hundreds have wept over a video game.
    • 0
      Linkin Park Fan Dec 15, 08
      Okami? Really? Shadow of the colossus I can understand.

      Poor aggro
      • 0
        RabidChinaGirl* Dec 15, 08
        I know, right? I was horrified, had my hands over my mouth and everything.

        He didn't die though! The freaking game lied to us.
    • 0
      Big A2 Dec 15, 08
      Me neither. I don't usually cry over any sort of story.

      Although, Mother 3's ending was the closest thing I came to crying.
  • 1
    Big A2 Dec 15, 08
    All his saying is that the stories in the games make you cry, not the games them self, and I don't need 10 boring paragraphs to tell me that.
  • 0
    The Omega Dec 15, 08
    Video games don't make you cry? When Donkey Kong came back from 5 goals down to beat my Waluigi team 6-5 in the Mario Strikers Charged Crystal Cup final, I was bawling my eyes out all night knowing I'd have to replay the whole damn tournament
  • 0
    dwg14390 Dec 15, 08
    Video games DON'T need a story to make you cry.

    When I first tried to play Gears of War 2 online, I was crying alright.

    I was really crying.
    • 0
      Final Blade Dec 15, 08
      You was probably crying due to getting owned against the Gears veterans. Nevertheless, regardless of story, you did cry.
      • 0
        The Omega Dec 15, 08
        Well yeah, it's kind of obvious by how he worded it that he was teasing himself about getting owned in GoW2 online Warcraft III online made me want to cry. Instead, I gave up and went back to WoW where I actually knew how to fight other players
        • 0
          Dark Arcanine Dec 15, 08
          Warcraft III made me want to cry at school. It's sad when one guy can take on three and be clearly winning. Depressing game to play with other people.
      • 0
        dwg14390 Dec 15, 08
        I wasnt crying from getting owned, especially when I played the first one

        After playing some awesome online games and getting completely stoked about Gears I put it in.

        Tell me if you won't cry if the game you waited so long for takes 30 MINUTES TO FIND A SINGLE DAMN PERSON TO PLAY WITH!!!

        And I am a veteran
        • 0
          Final Blade Dec 15, 08
          Was like that for Battlefield Bad Company and I didn't cry. I just played the story mode.
  • 0
    Dark Arcanine Dec 15, 08
    Only game that's managed to make me cry was Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, both Blue and Darkness (two generations). Though both times it was the storyline, so as far as I'm concerned I have to agree.
  • 0
    Bale Fire* Dec 15, 08
    I have the emotional capacity of a teaspoon, so I've never really cried at a game as far as I remember. Jak 2, FFX and MGS4 all came very close though, but I just don't express my sadness through tears.
  • 0
    kik36 Dec 15, 08
    FFVII Crisis Core was pretty damn sad in the end. Didn't make me cry though. My wife says I have ice in my veins.
  • 2
    phowell23 Dec 15, 08
    That was the most pointless article i have ever read. Thats like saying movies dont make you cry but the story and connection you feel with the charecters throughout the movie do. DUHHHH. I dont cry when i read the obituarys but i would if i knew someone who died.
    • 0
      Dark Arcanine Dec 17, 08
      Difference being that movies feel a lot more real, so their visual qualities can provide us with the odd tear jerker. Games on the other hand are very much story based and the visual is fake so you don't form emotional attachment. So it's not pointless, really.
      • 0
        Big A2 Dec 18, 08
        Emotions have nothing to do with how graphics look. Books without pictures make people cry all the time.
        • 0
          Dark Arcanine Dec 18, 08
          Yes but then we're talking about the story, thus proving the point of the blogger stating that video games themselves don't make you cry. I'm trying to help distinguish the difference between something that is real and something that is fictional to demonstrate where this guy is trying to aim his point of view from.
        • 0
          Big A2 Dec 20, 08
          Well, I can say that books doesn't make me cry, but the stories writen on them do.
  • 0
    ShadowJ Dec 15, 08
    Never cried to a game no matter the story, in fact never cried to a movie either...well that's not entirely true. I cried when I was 11 and watching Fly II past my bedtime with the sound muted and on a black & white TV...I didn't know the storyline, I didn't know what was happening except they put a dog in some invention and it came out mutated...later on the main character put it to sleep which made me cry because I was emotionally attached to my pets back then.

    I nearly cried to I am SAM! I mean I am legend, when the dog was killed and Will Smith just sat with the dog in its last few moments.

    Other than that never shedded a tear to anything...there are sad endings that I admit but not sad enough to make me cry
  • 3
    kik36 Dec 15, 08
    I choked up when 'Wilson' was lost in Castaway. God damn that was frickin' ROUGH!!!!
    • 1
      ShadowJ Dec 15, 08
      lol WILLLLLLSON! What an awesome film that was!
    • 0
      Capn Droid Dec 17, 08
      Epic film, epic entity, epic post.
      • 0
        Bale Fire* Dec 17, 08
        Your supposed to be sad about Willson, not loling and saying it's epic

        Now being a total hypocrite, lol at a netball becoming a guy's best friend.
        • 0
          Capn Droid Dec 19, 08
          I'm not loling, but it is epic without doubt.
  • 0
    HisServant77 Dec 18, 08
    ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction. Nuff said Tell me that ending, with the expression on Ratchet's face didn't bring you to tears? (amid the anger of them doing that to poor 'ol ratchet!)

    • 0
      Dark Arcanine Dec 19, 08
      I can, but only because I'm not a fan.
      • 0
        HisServant77 Dec 20, 08
        Haha, yeah I guess that could keep you from tears
    • 0
      Bale Fire* Dec 20, 08
      I'm a fan, and not a tear in the house. It was saddening, but I've seen things much more emotional.
      • 0
        HisServant77 Dec 20, 08
        Haha yeah I know. I was kinda only joking. But that was the closest thing to being sad enough to make me shed a tear that a video game has brought out of me. Just. . . that face. So sad!
  • 0
    The Primagen Dec 18, 08
    I cried after Too human.

    Because it sucked so much.
  • 0
    Drago Shi Dec 20, 08
    I cried during Halo 3 when they killed off Miranda Keyes and The Seargent. The Seargent kicked so much ass...and they killed him *bleep* you,guilty spark...

    I cried during Half-Life Episode 2 when Eli was killed. I was like,"HOLY *bleep*, WE GONNA GET READY TO LEAVE!" Then the damn Advisors come and killed Eli while DOG comes in and kicks one of them to the curb

    *bleep* you, Advisors..*bleep* you...

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