Electronic Theatre reports on the unveiling of a new storage medium offering the capacity of up to 100 DVDs, to which each Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have reportidly shown interest.

Holography is a technology that has been used in a variety of formats for many years. Projecting a series of light patterns to an optical input (such as the human eye or, in this case, a data-reading laser) the capabilities of holographic projection have thus far been limited to large-scale tourist attractions and a handful of Arcade machines from the late 90’s in the public sector (aside from various medical implementations). However, a US research team, General Electric, claim to have capitalised on the possibilities of the technology by delivering holographic optical media with the capacity of around one-hundred standard DVDs on a single disc.
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    Goldva_X Apr 29, 09
    Good luck putting the Holographic disc in the next-gen consoles without making the price ridiculously high.
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      Xeros the Slayer Apr 29, 09
      Actually they're cheaper to produce that blu-ray disks are. And will be even cheaper by 2011.
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        HisServant77 Apr 29, 09
        I'm hoping against it. At least against all of them having it. I rather like the different consoles being different. It justifies my owning multiple consoles. I hate the whole "console war" that sometimes uses the differences, but I enjoy the differences myself. If I wanted all of them to have the same features, games, and hardware . . . well what's the point of getting different ones?

        I'm hoping Sony will have something new, MS will have at least BD (but I'm leaning more toward MS using something . . . digital or something), and Nintendo can have this holography so that they can be different still.
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          Xeros the Slayer Apr 30, 09
          But thats differences made at the cost of progress. Last gen's PS2 and Xbox both had the same disk system and yet were very different.
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          HisServant77 May 3, 09
          Yeah . . . I suppose so. I just like variety. Not saying one should have superior media, I mean, they can all have excellent and equal media for games. Just don't be photocopies of each other, be different

          Now, unless they decide to go with the idea I thought of a while back, to where each console plays all the games and not just their own! (Yeah, I know, it'll happen the day after never.)
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    HisServant77 Apr 29, 09
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    cartridge Apr 29, 09
    Pionner already made a 16 layer Blu-ray which should be compatible with current players ... Furthermore , Blu-ray may be able to store 1 Terabyte in 2013.

    http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/pioneer-shows-off-16-layer-400gb-blu-ray-disc-affirms-compatibi/
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      Slumpy monkey Apr 29, 09
      There is more to a disk than size, and a HVD can store up to 4TB, plus it has a write seed of 1 Gbit/s.

      But I disagree with this article HVDs are WAY to expensive to throw out on to the mass market, even if 4-5 years or so. It costs like £70 for a disk a lone.
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        cartridge Apr 29, 09
        Actually it's only 500 GB capacity , and the reading speed is 20 MB/s I think (Blu-ray 1x :36Mbps). Holographic storage means that the information is stored on the disc in three dimensions, rather than just on the surface of the disc... so a 16 layer Blu-ray is also an holographic storage device .
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          Slumpy monkey Apr 29, 09
          No, the 20MB/s transfer rate was for the 300gb disk Maxell wanted to release in 2006, but they didn't.

          Blue ray is not a holographic disk because it doesn't use holography to read the data. No disk stores data on the surface.
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          cartridge May 1, 09
          It was the wrong place ,see the answer below.
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        cartridge Apr 30, 09
        quote Slumpy monkey
        No disk stores data on the surface
        "surface" means "surface layer" of course.
        quote Slumpy monkey
        Blue ray is not a holographic disk because it doesn't use holography to read the data.
        "Blu-ray" with 16
        layers IS an holographic storage device , if GE didn't call their disc "20 layer blu-ray" , it's for avoid the royalties.
        "Holographic storage stores data throughout the entire disk in multiple layers, increasing the density of the storage"
        "Because GE's micro-holographic discs could essentially be read and played using similar optics to those found in standard Blu-ray players"
        SOURCE: http://www.crn.com/storage/217200230;jsessionid=KWBSIFU1YDZ2MQSNDLPCKH0CJUNN2JVN
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          Slumpy monkey Apr 30, 09
          Thats not what the quote said at all, It says:

          quote source
          Because the hardware and the format of GE's holographic storage technology are similar to those of current optical storage technology, GE said that micro-holographic players will be backward read-compatible with existing CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray discs.
          Which means the GE PLAYERS will be able to READ BLUE-RAY AND DVD DISKS. It is not saying the holgraphic disk is the same as blue-ray otherwise it would be able to be read in blu-ray players and DVD players. Which is obviously not the case otherwise they would not have developed a drive for it in the first place. Its talking about THAT manufacturer's specific drive, not holographic data as a whole. Just like how some blu-ray players can read DVDs and some cant.

          A multi-layered disk is not new, there are multi layered DVD disks, its still stored in a 2d fashion, just on multiple layers, a Holographic disk stores its data in 3 dimensions.
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          cartridge May 1, 09
          I' m sorry Slumpy monkey , but it 's for avoid the royalties for make a "Blu-ray" player or a "Blu-ray" disc and you didn't quote the right sentence.

          It says EXACTLY: "GE's breakthrough is a huge step toward bringing our next-generation holographic storage technology to the everyday consumer," said Brian Lawrence, who leads GE's Holographic Storage program, in a statement. "Because GE's micro-holographic discs could essentially be read and played using similar optics to those found in standard Blu-ray players, our technology will pave the way for cost-effective, robust and reliable holographic drives that could be in every home. "
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          Slumpy monkey May 2, 09
          Look dude, I don't think you quite understand the concept of holography here.


          ITS NOT A BLU-RAY DISK.
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          cartridge May 2, 09
          No , I think that YOU misunderstand what they mean by holography !
          The information is 1 or 0 , but from the angle/layer that you read it , it can be 0 or 1 .
          In this case there is 20 angles/layer readable , the disc made by Pionner("16 layer blu-ray") had only 16 angle/layers readable.
          You can clearly see on the picture(8 posts above) that the Pionneer(16 layer blu-ray)disc is transparent , because it's an "holographic" disc.
          http://techfragments.com/news/715/Hardware/Move_Over_Blu-ray_-_GE_Shows_Off_500GB_Holographic_Disc.html

          They are working on a recorder not a player , because "blu-ray" players can read this 500GB disc ... DVD player could also read those informations but the disc would have a smaller capacity (=20 layer DVD).
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          Slumpy monkey May 3, 09
          Omfg man. *facepalm*

          So you final post the article that you were talking about earlier, which is funny how you denied linking the wrong one in the first place.

          "Because GEs micro-holographic discs could essentially be read and played using similar optics to those found in standard Blu-ray players, our technology will pave the way for cost-effective, robust and reliable holographic drives that could be in every home. The day when you can store your entire high definition movie collection on one disc and support high resolution formats like 3-D television is closer than you think."

          Key word there, SIMILAR NOT THE SAME, SIMILAR. He is NOT SAYING THAT IT CAN BE READ BY BLU RAY PLAYERS, He is saying it could be read using SIMILAR TECHNOLOGIES.

          Seriously man, for you to think that companies would go to the effort of faking a new technology and faking all these things just to doge paying a royalty for using the term "blu-ray" is pathetic.
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          cartridge May 3, 09
          Slumpy monkey , I was just trying to explain the things because this "news" was "wrong", even the picture of the disc is wrong(not transparent) but you just don't want to understand . First you are unable to see the quoted sentence in my first link because you are "psychologicaly blinded". See you for the 1 Tb disc B-R compatible
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          Slumpy monkey May 3, 09
          Actually the image for the article is an image of a HVD.
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          cartridge May 4, 09
          I made a wrong statement , Pioneer disc is not an "holographic" disc but a "3D optical data storage" media ...
          BUT:
          - Holographic storage are not "3D information" it's binary code , they don't ONLY use different layer but also different angle for read the information(like the hologram on a credit card ,if you watch it from left or right it's different.
          - "Blue"beam has a shorter wavelength so it will be the best lens with ANY KIND of media.
          quote Slumpy monkey
          Actually the image for the article is an image of a HVD
          The GE approach for store information is to use multiple layers of substrate(transparent)to make the disc (and not using a metal layer). The disc on the picture has at least one metal layer inside of it and is not what GE has shown.
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    Stefan Apr 29, 09
    but i mean, 2terabytes for a game?
    you fit every GTA ever made and then for shits and giggles the entire metal gear series in that much space.
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      Anubis Apr 29, 09
      Which means video game developers will have that much more room to create the "next, next gen"? of video games.

      Who knows, maybe whatever's next for gaming will require that much space.
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        HisServant77 Apr 29, 09
        No, I highly doubt video game discs are going to need that much space. There's only so much space before it become utterly ridiculous. Like I said in the other article: I believe instead of going for more space on their game media, the next consoles will look more for faster reading and transfer rates so that they have less loading time.
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    Delta787 Apr 29, 09
    man this so soon after blu ray
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    BB_Brona May 1, 09
    Holograms? Next we will be interacting with the movies were watching. Lol
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    xegaldis May 1, 09
    Beyond blu ray? I'd like to see how they do this one.
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    King X2* May 1, 09
    100 times a normal DVD eh? That's going to be one hell of a huge capacity. Hope they make something really awesome out of it.
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    Fallen Royalty May 3, 09
    Imagine the *in-game* graphics look like the quality of a Final Fantasy FMV. That's what I expect from a disc like that.

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