Pirate Bay owners Peter Sunde, Fredrik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm and Carl Lundström were found guilty of assistance to copyright infringement. Is this a sign of things to come in the videogame industry's ongoing battle with piracy? With the PC industry reporting massive losses and the accessibility of ROMs for emulation, how much more can the videogame industry take before it needs to take up arms, together?

How does this tie into gaming? Stardock, the creators of the excellent Sins of Solar Empire, showed how piracy of their latest release Demigod was positively rampant. 2D Boy, the indie developer behind World of Goo, also said similar things. Torrents are the lifeblood of videogame piracy, and yet neither TPB nor some other torrent site has been slapped with a lawsuit. I find this exceptionally peculiar, and I can't for love nor money figure out why the videogaming industry hasn't already attacked the pirating channels.
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    PacoDG Apr 30, 09
    Things to come = constant new file sharing technologies.

    It will eventually come down to either a 'Steam' like situation with ANY pc as well as console game (yes, having to be connected constantly for purchase verification of some sort).

    I actually can't wait for the presence of On Live to see how fast publishers back up the company.
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      chautemoc May 1, 09
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      It will eventually come down to either a 'Steam' like situation with ANY pc as well as console game (yes, having to be connected constantly for purchase verification of some sort).
      Not if I can help it.
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      Play ISDF May 1, 09
      If shit like that happens, I'm going to have to encourage piracy unless it's a beauty of a system. It took me two freaking weeks to install DoW2 through Steam despite having the disk sitting right in my freaking drive! Two bloody weeks of trying and trying and trying! Over multiple computers and trying different people's internet connections and god knows what else. Steam is a serious failure for such a stupid bloody thing.
      /rant

      In the long run there isn't a whole lot that can be done about piracy. Like games and technology, piracy is ever evolving. Torrent providers can be targeted but in the long run, if their smart, they can't be held accountable. Online activation gets cracked eventually while it screws with legit customers. New systems can be used like DRM but it only angers the majority. In the long run, piracy will always continue until a perfect anti-piracy system is used (which is basically impossible anyway) or until all games are free (fat chance).
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        chautemoc May 1, 09
        This man speaks the truth.

        Some would still pirate even if the "perfect anti-piracy system" was used though, on principle. Even the most inconsiderate pirates, I think, just want freedom, just maybe more than is fair to anyone. But it's all valid...
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        Storm May 1, 09
        Wow, your connection must suck. The most a Steam game has ever took for me was an hour and 30 mins. That's certainly not Steam's fault.

        As far as piracy goes, there's no doubt it'll continue...I mean, there's not much the industry can do about it, the 'pirates' are always one step ahead, and not just for the gaming industry, but films, music, etc., as well. Not everyone takes the free route though, otherwise we wouldn't see many games and such made.
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          Play ISDF May 2, 09
          Again, I tried a few friend's connections as well and on different computers. Some of them much better then what I have. All it would do is sit there and hang as it tried to create some cache items. This setup is most certainly partly at fault of Steam. I surfed around and found a way to install it without touching Steam and got it to work, then went online and authenticated it, and then was finally able to play. By the time I was able to play, I didn't feel like it anymore cause of all the crap I went through.

          There is simply no logical reason that should happen when I've got the disk in the bloody drive. Red Alert 3 was better in it's execution imo compared to DoW2. You'd install the game and then you couldn't play it till you authenticated it. Installing was a breeze and authenticating it took bugger all. With Steam you have to install the crap that is Steam, authenticate it then install the game through Steam with it active all the while, and then you have to keep Steam cause you basically need it on to play! No, just no. That shit is wrong and not needed.
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          Storm May 2, 09
          If it takes long to download and install, it's a connection issue. You can always check the speed process as well. Perhaps your friends have a similar connection to your's. But hell if you were having this much trouble, then why didn't you try contacting Steam? And why would you work so hard to get it to work and not bother with it...what a waste of time. Perhaps something may have gone wrong with the installation process, who knows? Something must have been faulty, but it's not like you didn't have options.
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          Play ISDF May 3, 09
          I've got a connection of about 256kbps download. I tried using a connection of 1mbps download and 1.5mbps download. Didn't help. I contacted Steam, didn't get a bloody response. Surfed around the net, heaps of other people were having the exact same problem and the problem wasn't even acknowledged by THQ and Relic and barely by Steam. And by the time I got it to finally work, my initial excitement was gone and I had already got another game in the mean time that didn't give me any bullshit.
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    Twin_Master May 1, 09
    Hackers will always find a way.
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    carouselambra May 1, 09
    Just look for the people in the office with the hook hand and a peg leg. Thats what they need to do to tackle piracy. Peg-leg discrimatory job vacancies.
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    xegaldis May 1, 09
    Piracy cannot be stopped, it'll always be there.
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      King X2* May 1, 09
      Yes, but it's the same thing with drugs. It can never be completely abolished, but it can be reduced.
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        CyborgNinja May 1, 09
        But drugs haven't been reduced, the war on drugs is a complete and utter loss. The same will probably come with piracy. Just look at the mentality behind it, why pay when i can download it for free?
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          Slumpy monkey May 2, 09
          Yes they have, are you telling me that drugs are as widespread now than if it was not outlawed and was sold in shops.
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          Euphoric May 3, 09
          He meant that you can't reduce the use of drugs and that the combating of it wasn't decreasing their use. He in no way made reference the their legality or lack thereof.
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          Slumpy monkey May 3, 09
          I'm pretty sure he did with the use of "the war on drugs". If there was no "war on drugs" it means they would be legal.

          You wouldn't make something illegal and then just sit there not stopping it.
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          Euphoric May 3, 09
          Why not? Saying something is illegal doesn't mean you have to, or will, campaign against it. Often it will happen but it's not mandatory.

          But that's not the point anyway. Cyborg said that trying to combat drugs hasn't eradicated them, much like combating piracy won't stop it. Whether combating drugs has made them less prominently used (which it hasn't) is completely irrelevant to the comparison.
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    dwg14390 May 3, 09
    so, piracy is outlawed and those who are caught are arrested and yet that doesn't stop piracy hurting sales now does it?

    Just look at what happened to some of the wiiware games and some of Capcoms games.

    I only pirate music (apple can kiss my ass with a dollar per song)
    Piracy can never be stopped, and never will be stopped, and its sad to since it'll discourage new IP's and force smaller budgets on games which isn't necesaraly that bad but still pretty bad if you wanted a full blow out game.

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