Matt from RatedG4Gamer takes a look at the question every Xbox 360 owner has thought are talked about, why do we pay for Xbox Live?. He takes a look at other services out there and gives us his run down.

Xbox Live is great fun, don't get me wrong. It is an amazing social experience in which you can have an amazing time and meet some truly incredible people. I've made lifelong friends from all over the globe thanks to Xbox Live, and had some of the most memorable gaming experiences on Live, such as scoring that 43-3 on CoD4 or having some guy threaten to kill me over a game of Halo next time we were at a LAN together. I even became addicted to Achievements for a period of time, only slowing down when I got to 60k. But the thing is, these experiences could've happened anywhere. I could've met lifelong friends in a chat room or down at the shops. I could have been somewhere else experiencing all these emotions. It's not like they're exclusive to Xbox Live.
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    conel3 Sep 7, 09
    I'm happy to pay for xboxlive as are most people but this guy raises some good points. We shouldn't really be paying as much as we are for it and I doubt microsoft are really at the point where they need us to pay as much for it as we do. It's just microsoft being greedy I guess but as there isn't an alternative if you want to play online which I do then I guess they'll have to just have my money.
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      FinalFantasyFanaticc Sep 7, 09
      As much as we are for it? We pay hardly anything, seriously it's not even a dent in my paycheck, £50 a year, seriously if that's alot to someone then they really need to stop spending it all elsewere.

      I'm happy to pay for XBL as it's dirt cheap and the service is excellent plus it's getting constantly upgraded and having new features attached to it.
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    Xeros the Slayer Sep 7, 09
    Seriously, if you have a hard time scraping together $50 per year, you shouldn't be putting your money into games in the first place.

    You can't say XBL has a ridiculous price when single games(MMOs mostly) go for $10-$20 per MONTH and even then they don't update as often or have half the features of Live.
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      Smoke Sep 8, 09
      I thought about not posting in this, as I've stated what I'm about to dozens of times before, but why not.

      $50 may not seem as much at all, but why would I pay anything for something that I feel should be free? That's like asking to pay money to goto Gamefaqs when Neoseeker is free. Sure, Gamefaqs may offer more guides or streamlined better, but Neoseeker offers similar services.

      Money is tight for me. I have a steady job that pays well, but I have bills to pay, college and my car's needed some work done on it. So yeah, $50 good bit to me.

      And yes, I definitely agree with your second point. $15 a month for a MMO such as World of Warcraft is ridiculous. No wonder Activison wanted to buy Blizzard so bad.
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        Shinobi_razor Sep 8, 09
        so then go play PS3 or PC online if you cant afford Live. its not that hard. you are not being forced to play on Live.
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          Smoke Sep 8, 09
          I...well... yeah, that's what I do.

          Complaints drive progression. Simple as that. If enough people complain about something, and bring up good reasons for their complaints, as I or the writer of the article has, the company should answer the complaints to please the customer.

          It's not random bitching or trolling, there's good reason behind the complaints. It's the same as someone complaining that Valve's recent DLC for Left 4 Dead is free on PC but costs money for the 360.
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          Tiger of Wu Sep 8, 09
          It comes down to one simple business rule: You don't like, don't buy it. People who like it buy it. $50 a year between however many 360 owners do use it (I have no idea but lets say if it was a thousand (it's blatantly more overall but this is just for example) they'd make 50 thousand) is quite a lot to them as a company even though it's cheap to the individual, so they won't let up on it as long as those people are happy to pay for it, which they are. Complaining about it will do nothing as long as those people are still happy with it.
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          Fatal Error Sep 8, 09
          That's....not a business rule, it's a consumer rule. As a business, you aren't supposed to adopt that strategy. Telling customers "*bleep* you, pay for it because you don't have a choice" (not many other options out there for playing 360 games online, are there?) and sticking to that isn't a wise decision. People can only fool themselves into saying it's worth it for so long.
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          Shinobi_razor Sep 8, 09
          well the millions of gamers paying for Live sure isnt gonna convince MS to make it free anytime soon.

          the only thing that would deter them is if a good 70% of Live subscribers suddenly canceled and told MS they were switching to PS3 cause of the free online. other than that, MS isnt gonna change squat. you can complain all you want, it wont change anything.
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          Tiger of Wu Sep 8, 09
          'Telling customers "*bleep* you, pay for it because you don't have a choice" (not many other options out there for playing 360 games online, are there?) and sticking to that isn't a wise decision.'

          In this case, yes, yes it is. Because that has made Microsoft quite a nice sum of money over the years and hasn't cost the consumer, as an individual, much. You can say it isn't a wise decision but try telling that to the head of the LIVE division whilst s/he's throwing money around and squealing.

          'People can only fool themselves into saying it's worth it for so long.'

          And at what point did you become the authority of what is or isn't worth the money in the gaming world, hm?
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    Tiger of Wu Sep 7, 09
    This is barely a copper question. Anyone who pays for it pays for it because they can afford it for its superior quality. Everyone else either games offline or on another system. It's not rocket science. Anyone paying for LIVE and who doesn't know why they are either has had their credit card details stolen or is a complete moron.
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    Red 9 Sep 7, 09
    There are features Live has that PSN doesn't. But even if it only is $50 a year, I still take free over fee any day.
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      Shinobi_razor Sep 8, 09
      and thats ok. if all the games you want to play online are on PS3, then might as well play for free. i just get sick and tired of everyone whining and bitching about having to pay for Live all the time when there are 3 other systems they can play on for free. several of us Live players are fine with paying a measly $50 a year. like Tiger said above, only complete morons or someone who had their credit card stolen bitch about paying for Live if they have already paid for a year's worth of service.

      the guy who wrote this article (this "Matt" person) needs to STFU and go get a PC or PS3 and play on that.
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    Phil Anselmo Sep 8, 09
    I don't mind paying for Live.. I've been on Xbox Live for three years now. I've disagreed with Smoke on this subject before... However, there's no doubt in my mind that whenever Sony finally get the PSN up to par, Microsoft will have to either lower the price of Live or make it completely free.

    What are we paying for, aside from a centralized gaming portal? Not much. Almost every piece of DLC costs *points*, most multiplayer games still rely on laggy match-making instead of D-E-D-I-C-A-T-E-D S-E-R-V-E-R-S... and as far as security goes, it's not too difficult to recover someone else's gamertag.

    Microsoft can charge for Live now because there's currently nothing equivalent on the console market.... One can only hope that Sony continue on track to challenge Live with future updates; consumers win when companies compete against each other.
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    Storm Sep 8, 09
    Eh, $50 is less than a game these days, and it's service for an entire year. Hell we all have cell phones, don't we? That's monthly charges. We all have internet access, likely no one using dial-up here, also monthly charges. Although I am generally against P2P games, it's just for playing online, and that's something I don't do too often.
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    Gamesta100* Sep 8, 09
    If I end up getting a 360, I won't be payng for online.I refuse to pay money to play games online.The price isn't a matter, I just don't think it should cost to play online.


    quote Storm
    We all have internet access, likely no one using dial-up here, also monthly charges.
    That's one of the reasons I refuse to pay for online.Our internet and games are to expensive compared to what other countries pay.But I can't live without games so I'm willing to pay our prices for games but refuse to pay extra money to do something that should be free considering I've already spent the money on the game and online play is part of that game.

    People complain when they have to pay for extra content for a game that is already on the disc.I see NO difference between paying money for missions for example that are on the disc alyready and paying for online play when that feature is on the game already.
    Well apart from the fact that you don't pay to play onlin for each game you buy.
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    Play ISDF Sep 8, 09
    I feel like making a simple point. Australia always gets the butt end when it comes to games. Get used to it. That won't be changing any time soon. We miss out on content, we miss out on +18 games (due to one idiot sure but still), some release dates are simply non-existent (looking at you Rockband 2) and the only servers we get to use are on the other side of the world as per usual. Something tells me that won't change anytime in the near future.

    As far as paying for Xbox Live goes, it's a pretty good service and as said, something like $60 for a year is pretty great compared to something like the $200 for something like WoW, which is only one game when Xbox Live lends it's services over many games.
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    Gamesta100* Sep 8, 09
    I never said I wasn't used to it.I don't mind paying $100 plus on video games.If I did, I wouldn't buy 95% my games on day one, pretty much get SE's almost every chance I get and I wouldn't have 40+ disc based PS3 games.

    MMO's are the same thing.There's no way in hell I'm paying every month just so I can play a game.I know the reasons they do charge for MMO's but that doesn't make me any less like paying to play them.

    I just refuse to pay to play online no matter how cheap it is.The only reason I've even experienced online gameing is because of PSN being free.


    Besides I rarely play online.

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