Ryan Johnson | GoozerNation

This generation of consoles has seen two major tragedies: The Red Ring of Death and the current mess with Sony's online services. Both companies had quick reactions to their problem as well. So what will people remember more: the tragedy that started it all, or the service that was provided to fix them? Ryan Johnson of GoozerNation gives his opinion. Read in to find out!

You have heard me rant many times about the extra chaos inherent in today's video game consoles. When I had my 8-bit Nintendo, the biggest crash that could happen was getting dust in the cartridge, and there was a home remedy for that. Two of the Big Three companies have had major calamities during this console generation. Early on, we saw the infamous Red Ring of Death. The three quadrants of light around the Xbox 360 Power Button lighting red that signaled your console was no longer operable. Recently, we have seen the crash of the PlayStation Network, being taken offline due to hacking and the acquisition of sensitive materials via third party.
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    Zero and X Jun 15, 11
    How was the red ring of death, a problem that persisted for years, one that was reacted quickly?
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      Paradox Jun 15, 11
      It didn't really persist in full force for years, after the first year it was basically sort of over.. Plus M$ fixed them for free.
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        Red 9 Jun 15, 11
        Fixing it for free did not change the fact that it still happened. The RRoD is one of the most well-known console errors out there.
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          Seproth Jun 15, 11
          People forgot that a lot of ps2s stopped grabbing discs. People were putting scotch tape around the holes in discs to pad them so it could grab.

          Dreamcast had horrible noise problems, as well as overheating problems.

          I'm guessing looking back will be positive.
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        Zero and X Jun 15, 11
        It wasn't just the first year dude, it persisted for quite awhile. Even the first batch of 360 slims had issues.
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      ShadowGuard Jun 16, 11
      lol no, it still exists today, but it was an epidemic for the first 2-3 years... Just because Microsoft fixed them for free does not change the fact that the system had a serious problem.

      EDIT: sorry, this was meant to reply to Paradox, not Zero and X.
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      Shinobi_razor Jun 16, 11
      maybe not really quickly but at least MS gives you 3 years from date of purchase to get a free repair on RROD. thats pretty good.

      what does Sony do about the PSN problems? "oh sorry guys for the problems. heres a couple free old games for you that no one really likes very much anyway. oh and you can have a free month of PSN+ but you dont get to keep the games you download after the months over DERP" i mean really? Uncharted 1 couldnt have been one of the free games? its certainly old enough, Sony's just stingy.
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        Zero and X Jun 16, 11
        We're talking about fixing the issue itself, not fixing the consoles.

        Also, games that people didn't like? Oh yeah cause nobody liked infamous or littlebigplanet. Uncharted 1 isn't avialable for download on, PSN, wtf are you talking about?
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          Shinobi_razor Jun 16, 11
          most people that wanted LBP had it already, not to mention LBP2 was out anyway. inFamous was alright but its really nothing to write home about compared to flagship titles like Uncharted. just saying its like they are only offering their more "second rate" titles for free rather than the killer apps like Uncharted. and even if Uncharted isnt available for download currently, Sony can easily fix that.
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          Zero and X Jun 16, 11
          First off, whether LBP is owned by many people or not is irrelevant because that wasn't your initial point, you said, and I quote "no one really likes very much anyway". Also, I really liked infamous, I beat it twice and thought it was a satisfying experience. Also, what do you expect from a downloadable game? Do you expect Sony to mail you disc games to your house? The games we got for free were either pretty good or fairly decent. Also, Sony can easily fix that? How do you know? Do you work for Sony? Have you managed this sort of thing before? I sincerely doubt you have.
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          Shinobi_razor Jun 16, 11
          whatever. go ahead and live in your fantasy world where you believe Sony is truly sorry for what happened and has done enough to make up for something that should never have happened in the first place. i think they still owe their fans more.
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          Zero and X Jun 17, 11
          Lol, I find it funny that you just gave up and decided to throw ad hominem attacks at me.
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          Shinobi_razor Jun 17, 11
          uh thats not ad hominem at all.
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          Zero and X Jun 17, 11
          You started attacking me rather than the argument, sounds like ad hominem to me. Not to mention strawman argument aswell, I never said anything about whether or not sony was 'sorry" or not and whether I think that or not is irrelvant because I was simply responding to what you were saying.
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          ShadowGuard Jun 18, 11
          Shinobi_razor, I still cannot believe you are blaming anything on Sony after all the other attacks that have happened since then in the gaming industry. Honestly, Sony did not have to give an apology at all, for they were the victims, that is like expecting an apology from a rape victim. The only reason they gave an apology is because for some reason, Sony cares about little crybabies like you. You should be thankful that Sony gave you anything, and your argument about what bad games they gave out is even more foolish. All full-retail games that are actually pretty solid games. LBP and infamous are some of the best exclusives on the console, regardless of what your personal opinion is. This is not about you individually, so dont get all selfish and blame Sony even more.
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          Shinobi_razor Jun 18, 11
          the level of brainwashed Sonybots in this thread is astounding.
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          Zero and X Jun 18, 11
          Yeah dude, I am such a Sonybot, that's why I own a Wii and DS.
          I am not a fanboy of any one company, I am fan of games, just because I decided to defend Sony does NOT automatically make me a follower of theirs. If Sony does something stupid, I will say it's stupid, and if MS or Nintendo do something right, I am not going to pretend they suck because I suck Sony's dick.
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          Hideo1 Jun 18, 11
          PSN = Free.

          If I started giving you a bar of chocolate every day, at no cost to you, you have no right to complain if I stop doing it for whatever reason. Not a solid metaphor but it works to the main point, which follows:

          If later on I resume and I throw in two big Easter eggs for you, you have no right to complain that they aren't the kind of eggs you wanted.
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    Hideo1 Jun 17, 11
    Will gamers bitch and moan or will they carry on in a positive manner?

    GEE, I DON'T KNOW.
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    longview01 Jun 18, 11
    lol @ Shinobi_razor just insulting people and calling them all manner of names because they don't agree with his opinion haha

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