Matt Banks of Loot Ninja made his way over to Valve to check out Left 4 Dead 2 like so many did, I'm sure. However he managed to pull a nice quote out of his chat to update any PS3 users on the situation of getting any non-EA ported Valve titles.

The PC and the 360 are just more straightforward. We can focus on what we want to do, which is make game experiences, instead of sweating bullets over obscure architectural decisions they make with their platform. [...] I didn’t come into this business in the 90s because of some technical fetish. I came in because I wanted to give people experiences that made them have fun.
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  • 3
    Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
    This is news? Hasn't everyone known this since... forever?
    • 4
      PacoDG Jun 10, 09
      It is an update for any of those who thought of keeping hope.
      • 3
        Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
        No, it's an update so you can get GrepPoints (or, possibly, traffic). Don't beat around the bush.
        • 5
          PacoDG Jun 10, 09
          You think I work at Loot-Ninja?

          Will GrepPoints get me laid?

          I am in disbelief your post is even serious (it can't be.. can it?)
        • 3
          Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
          I think the former of my post is true and the latter is a possibility, since there is no possible way you thought this actually qualified in the slightest as news. From what I've seen you're not that much of a moron.
        • 3
          PacoDG Jun 10, 09
          Thanks for the lessening of the attacks. I have no desire for points, they do nothing as far as I know (though I am curious as to list of titles that exist.. but not *that* curious).

          I am Mike Masashi Murakami III from http://www.bingegamer.net (that is where I work (and I do post stuff from there of course), also, my name is a bit long for a user name.. but I always use "PacoDG".. so you google that and see everything about me if you want to know)

          This is definitely not "News" as in regular news.. but there is an "Industry News" section just for updates like this. Valve has not come out and straight up said such specific things about why they don't do PS3 games.. at least not that I remember. But even if they did, I will say it is still news, as we are near mid-way the lifecycle of these "next gen" consoles (well, I guess not mid-way if PS3 is really going for a full 10 years), it is at the very least interesting to hear a third party developer that receives no benefits in working with just one console, to still continue to do so.
        • 3
          Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
          They said this a while ago. A long while ago, in fact, in many interviews. Many interviews. They've been asked about it a lot, since they first neglected PS3 and still went with 360.

          If we didn't already know this it would be news. Since it is common knowledge to anyone who even remotely cares, however, it isn't.

          If you were under some notion it wasn't common knowledge and didn't know, then fair enough. I'm still going with the point theory though; nothing personal.
        • 3
          PacoDG Jun 10, 09
          Well, when the points mean something in real life, I'll say your theory is sound.

          For now though on the real topic of this "News", I think you can look back and see Valve has in fact flip flopped on their opinion of the PS3:

          PS3 a "total disaster on so many levels" from 2007 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=155309

          "Valve's Doug Lombardi admits PS3 success, 're-evaluating' development" from 2008 http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/valves-gabe-newell-admits-ps3-success-re-evaluating-developm/

          Where is now other site's are picking up this loot-ninja story.. (It's still on the front page of Kotaku right now, they posted it last night at 11:30pm est). I think whether you want it to be or not... this is in fact.. news.
        • 3
          Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
          News is new information on something relevant. For it to be news it mustn't be something already very widely known.

          And there has been no flip-flopping, just people reading into things too much and misinterpreting what they say. That whole thing wasn't about Valve developing for PS3, that was about allowing constant ports made by EA or someone, like they did with The Orange Box and were thinking of doing with L4D.

          Like I've said above, however, if you didn't know, fair enough. I'm just still going with the whole points theory. You can say they mean nothing, but there are still people who try to raise their post count for trivial reasons and shout 'FIRST' in youtube video comments. It doesn't need to mean something for someone to do it; again, no offence.
        • 5
          Drogo Baggins Jun 10, 09
          Hey guys, stop arguing!

          We all know you're doing it for the points, since points are so important!

        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
          Yes! I'm a points whore! I'm going to go post a trillion articles for them like I always do
        • 3
          Drogo Baggins Jun 10, 09
          Lol, my comment was obviously a joke.

          It seems that you didn't understand. That makes me laugh.

          I was merely mocking you for acting like points were important, and how you insulted Paco for posting an article, which is not only pointless, but a bit childish as well.
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
          *facepalm*

          I've seen you post in many articles where I've danced the dance and, a fair few occasions, you were commenting on the dance itself. If memory serves I've danced with you a few times as well. So why you think I took your comment seriously is beyond my comprehension. I suppose the old saying is true; no smiley face equals interwebz is serious bizness

          My comment was a subversive mockery of those who do whore articles for points. Nothing more, nothing less. And I wasn't mocking Paco, not trying to at least, I was just trying to understand why he had posted it without being given a generic and obvious answer designed to save someone's ass which can't technically be argued against anyway. If I did insult him whilst doing that it was just an unintended byproduct.

          I find it funny though how someone joins in doing something they themselves soon after describe as childish

          OhShitINeedASMileyOtherwiseI'mBeingSuperSerious

        • 0
          PacoDG Jun 11, 09
          Meh, i'm now tired on this subject and forgot about it, but just seen a new reply to a participated article and figured I would come back to post that the Joystiq article shows flip flopping by Lombardi with this quote "So whether or not you like developing for that platform, if they've got millions of people connected to that platform and buying their games you have to take it seriously." ... I don't know how that can be interpreted any other way than Valve re-thinking a PS3 strategy.

          Random other stuff: I can agree this is not "News" news, it is still being reported by reputable places (as I personally find Kotaku mixes up reputable with tabloid sometimes).

          IGN http://ps3.ign.com/articles/993/993592p1.html
          TechRadar UK http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/valve-ps3-too-complicated-to-develop-for-607193
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
          Reputable places need traffic as well [/pushing it xD]
        • 0
          Drogo Baggins Jun 11, 09
          Lol, how am I doing what you did?

          You insulted someone for posting an article, while I mocked you for being an ass.

          There is a difference.

          And, looking at your comment that I replied to earlier, you were obviously trying to be a sarcastic jackass.

          quote
          I've seen you post in many articles where I've danced the dance and, a fair few occasions, you were commenting on the dance itself. If memory serves I've danced with you a few times as well.
          ...what? Just to set things straight, I don't think I want to dance at all. When you use metaphors like that, you sound like a cliche movie character. Please stop.
        • 0
          Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
          Oh, I apologise. I didn't know you knew more about my thoughts and reasonings than I did. Please, tell me more about myself Dr. Phil
        • 1
          Drogo Baggins Jun 12, 09
          quote
          Oh, I apologise. I didn't know you knew more about my thoughts and reasonings than I did. Please, tell me more about myself Dr. Phil
          Okay.

          You're a 14 year old girl, you start arguments over stupid bullshit, and spew shit from your mouth in order to keep the argument going. Examples of your jackassery are insulting people for no good reason, ignoring points of someone's arguments, not being able to understand a simple joke, and being a smart ass or a dumb ass (whichever one best fits the situation).

          I don't mean to be so harsh, but you asked, and I'm merely calling it as I see it, for lack of a better phrase...
        • 0
          Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
          Oh noez, he figured it all outz

          Also, don't forget, carouselambra is my alternate account, I'm the reason Duke Nukem Forever has been such a mind*bleep* and I eat the souls of babies
        • 0
          Drogo Baggins Jun 12, 09
          You know, I realize this is pointless. I got into this to, I don't know, "defend" Paco or something half-*bleep*, and I don't even know him, so I'm a dumbass for even caring.

          I actually do think I took my last post a bit too far, and I came back to hopefully edit it before you got back, but I'm apparently too late. Even though I'm sure you're not sensitive enough to let something like that hurt your feelings, I actually do apologize anyway.

          And I'm not trying to weasel out of an argument. I realize that I shouldn't have even got involved, because it wasn't my argument to begin with.

          Also, I have one last question...Is carouselambra really your alternate account? Lol, judging from what I just saw you say about him in the "Counterstrike" article, that can't be true. I can't tell if you're joking or not...

          EDIT: Nevermind. I'm stupid for even asking that...
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
          Interwebz is no srs bizness.

          We come, we argue, we argue some more and then the next thing you know we'll be laughing together in the next Flower article at the 140-bazillion posts. Gamegrep goes on, and so forth
  • 1
    Gamesta100 Jun 10, 09
    Oh boo hoo the PS3 is too hard to program for.

    But whatever, if they don't want to make games on PS3 then they don't want my money
  • 0
    Goldva_X Jun 10, 09
    So many potential buyers... gone. Well, at least until they man up and figure it out. Everyone else has already done that, why can't they?
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    DystopiaSticker Jun 10, 09
    God there are so many defensive Sonybots on this planet. I wake up in the morning and see articles like this, and I think to myself, there's no way there are human beings so defensive about an inanimate object that they'd hate a developer who has created some of the best games in videogame history because of shit like this. But no. I'm wrong. There are fat, idiot losers that *bleep*ing defensive. It sucks. The only comfort I take is that little kids that actually feel that way are so goddamn ugly and lack so heavily in social skills that there's no possible way they'll ever have kids and teach them to be such big losers too.
    They just like developing for the PC. Suck it up fags.

    Note: I'm referring to the comments in the cited article, not this one.
    • 0
      kik36 Jun 10, 09
      You do realize that you're the only one who goes around bashing any one particular platform......right? I've never seen anyone so against Sony before in my life. WTF did they do to you man? Maybe we can help resolve the issue.

      No one here was bashing MS, so no clue why you always feel the need to attack Sony and anyone who plays on their shit. I didn't even see anyone say they hated Valve which you claim. It's pretty hard for me to like someone when I don't have an opportunity to play their game, let alone hate them.
      • 0
        PacoDG Jun 10, 09
        lol .. I thought I was the only one confused by his post.

        (nice edit DystopiaSticker ... because damn, those comments on that page are scary. I pray that it isn't a bunch of people, but rather just one big dork under many user names)
      • 1
        DystopiaSticker Jun 11, 09
        Honestly thought I had made that edit before anyone read my comment. At first, I thought the pure hatred in the comments section in the article would clearly be what I was referring to but I figured most would skip them and think I was referring to Gamesta and Goldva's legit opinions. Trust me, I wasn't.

        I haven't bashed Sony and you must not be looking very hard if you think I'm the only guy to bash a platform when you frequent a forum like general PS3. Honestly guy, bash anyone who plays Sony's shit? I'm like ten feet from a PS2, a PSP and dozens of PSX games. Half of my favorite games of all time are Sony exclusives. I favor the 360 over the PS3 this generation. Turrible I know.
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
          All he's saying is he hasn't seen you bash Microsoft or Nintendo but has consistently seen you bash Sony. In fact that's all I've seen of you as well, Dystopia (as far as bashing goes, anyway).

          Now assuming he didn't see that last bit and thought you were referring to this article would his comment be legit? Of course it would. Then, after seeing the last bit, he posted the comment below, clearing it up. Don't take it so personally if someone misunderstands what you're saying but then, after realising what was going on, says it's fair enough. Seems pointless.
    • 0
      kik36 Jun 10, 09
      quote DystopiaSticker
      Note: I'm referring to the comments in the cited article, not this one.
      Fair enough.
  • 0
    Goldva_X Jun 10, 09
    Lol, almost every comment on that article has a paragraph dedicated to Gabe's weight. Hateful little people
  • 0
    chautemoc Jun 10, 09
    Hm. Well I am the farthest thing from a developer, but some seem to find it easier to develop for. Of course, maybe they are just paid to say that. I do not know.
    But perhaps it's easier for Valve to develop on PC/360 because they started with PC, and the 360 has a similar architecture, and that's that? Just a thought.
    • 0
      BANDITO ATTACK Jun 11, 09
      it's like learning a foreign language with completely different syllables and grammar rules. usually. except from PC to PS3, apparently you have to learn the cryllic alphabet, too.
  • 0
    Reenee Jun 11, 09
    Valve can't port the Orange Box but shit like Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust makes it onto the system anyway.

    Think about it.
    • 1
      Slumpy monkey Jun 11, 09
      Think about what? Valve didn't make the Port for PS3, neither did they make Leisure Suit Larry.
      • 0
        Reenee Jun 11, 09
        quote Slumpy monkey
        Valve didn't make the Port for PS3
        That's the joke!
        • 4
          Onvacation Jun 11, 09
          If you have to explain it, its not a good joke.
        • 1
          Reenee Jun 11, 09
          He just said the obvious: Valve didn't make the port because Valve doesn't like the PS3! Hurr.
        • 3
          Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
          Lrn2Funny
        • 1
          Reenee Jun 11, 09
          That's your fault, not mine. Slumpy monkey up there can't seem to comprehend shovelware manages to perform smoother than a 4-year old game engine.
        • 3
          Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
          No, it's your fault, for not being funny.
        • 1
          Slumpy monkey Jun 11, 09
          You cant seem to comprehend that the PS3 version was not made by Valve and so if shovelware performs better than it on the PS3 then it has nothing to do with Valve because THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT.

          Think about this for a few minutes, take a nap and then think if you understand that. Might be pushing it a bit though..
        • 2
          Reenee Jun 12, 09
          quote
          No, it's your fault, for not being funny.
          It is on a deeper level than your shitty never-funny Over 9xxx meme. You cannot comprehend.

          quote
          Valve because THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT.
          What part of "Valve", "not try", and "doesn't like" don't you get?
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
          I almost got the joke when you first made it, it's just the nonsensical idea of having LSL be the... buffer, I suppose you could call it, of the joke was ridiculous, which forced me to rethink it because it was either a really unfunny joke or just a really stupid way of expressing an opinion... or both. You're like the person who runs into an office after watching Eddie Murphy and screams 'I'm gay Mr. T, I'll rip your dick off with my ass cheeks'. The material you use has potential in the right hands but you're just too unfunny to make it work. Accept it or not; it's the truth.
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          Reenee Jun 12, 09
          quote
          I almost got the joke when you first made it, it's just the nonsensical idea of having LSL be the... buffer, I suppose you could call it, of the joke was ridiculous, which forced me to rethink it because it was either a really unfunny joke or just a really stupid way of expressing an opinion... or both. You're like the person who runs into an office after watching Eddie Murphy and screams 'I'm gay Mr. T, I'll rip your dick off with my ass cheeks'. The material you use has potential in the right hands but you're just too unfunny to make it work. Accept it or not; it's the truth.
          You think too much. Also, the kind of thing I would yell out would blacken your eyes, cry tears of blood, and babble incomprehensible bouts of an Eldritch speech.
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
          You think too little; proof in the fact you walked bare-faced into that one
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    carouselambra Jun 12, 09
    quote
    Also, don't forget, carouselambra is my alternate account, I'm the reason Duke Nukem Forever has been such a mind*bleep* and I eat the souls of babies
    Carouselambra resents that. I'm a real boy.

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