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  DEZVOUS | September 24, 2007
  That is quite interesting... Strange move but good for Blu-Ray nonetheless.
  
  Especially funny that Elements is the smaller/more simple version of Premiere. I'm guessing future Premiere endeavors will also be on Blu-Ray since they are even larger yet.
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    Krunal | September 24, 2007

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    Elements is the smaller/more simple version of Elements

    What do you mean :s Do you mean PRmiere Elements is the...?
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      DEZVOUS | September 24, 2007
      Meant to say "Premiere."
      
      It doesn't say why it's being released on Blu-Ray but I'm guessing it takes up more than 9 gbs of space?
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        Krunal | September 24, 2007
        I doubt it. I just think they want to be a *bitch* to those that are supporting the HD-DVD. Having a PS3, and wanting a Sony Viao, it wont be effecting me at all.
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        DEZVOUS | September 24, 2007
        Actually previous installations of certain Adobe programs have shipped on multiple DVDs.
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        VeGiTAX2 | September 25, 2007
        CS2 Premium was on multiple CD's not DVD's. Most editions out now ship on multiples for the tutorials on the programs, not the actual software content. Even Master Collection for CS3 is around 9GB total for templates and whatnot.
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        DEZVOUS | September 25, 2007
        Didn't like the CS2 complete collection come on 2 DVDs? I remember the size was far larger than 2 CDs and know it came on 2 discs.
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        VeGiTAX2 | September 25, 2007
        General retail versions of the software (the fat DVD style box) came in 7 CD packs for retail and student licenses. Some version may have been 2 DVD's but for the most part Adobe has been using CD-ROM still. Even our CS3 packs are still CD-ROM for individual products, suites and the master collection I think has moved to include DVD's for the tutorials exclusively.
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  BANDITO ATTACK | September 25, 2007
  doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.
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  Gogetenks | September 25, 2007
  I don't use Adobe products regularly, but I'm assuming they will continue to support DVDs, correct? Frankly, it would be a very stupid move on their part to not support DVDs at all, considering Blu-ray's install base on PCs is extremely small and almost nothing when compared to DVDs, which are now in virtually every PC and laptop. It would be a very poor business decision to cut off DVD support. Not supporting HD-DVD wouldn't be such a big deal, as long as they continue to support regular DVDs.
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    Raziel_326 | September 25, 2007
    I don't see why they wouldn't.
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    Existenz | September 25, 2007
    They will continue to support DVD but i mean as it does on just like CD to DVD it will get to a point where Adobe Photoshop CS5 Advanced Complete Ultra 3D Edition is gonna be on one Blu-Ray when you will need 5 DVD's to install it, i know what i would go with and in the long run thats what happens, it is a huge deal in the PC world since it only takes a handful of developers to back Blu-Ray as a gaming/design format before it becomes standard issue unlike in the movie world.
    
    Though they seriously need to make the Blu-Ray sign on the boxpretty big, i know i would peeved if BD-ROM was just in the small print on the back and i only had a DVD player.
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      VeGiTAX2 | September 25, 2007
      Actually you don't follow the software very well at all then do you?
      
      "i mean as it does on just like CD to DVD"
      
      Unfortunately to shoot your comment to death, Adobe still uses large amounts of CD's in their bundles to all their sources, corporate, retail and student licensing. CS2 was 7 CD's.
      
      Just because you bought the misconception that multiple discs = bane of existence it doesn't mean that it's actually accurate. Even if you did need 5 DVD9 discs do you realize how that invalidates the use of a single layer BD? You're still spending hours trying to transfer and uncompress data at that point of space consumption.
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  Riku31069 | September 25, 2007
  This doesn't seem like a really big deal to me.
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    Krunal | September 25, 2007
    It'll be even bigger if other companies follow suite, and it could be that very soon, other companies decide to pick Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD) and then those that have Laptops with HD-DVD drives will have to get a BD Drive since I expect as time goes on, more things will be put on BD's (not just programs).
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  Kazooieman | September 26, 2007
  I don't really see the point with Blu-Ray? What does it actually give us better than HD?
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    Raziel_326 | September 26, 2007
    The main difference is Blu-Ray can carry up to 25GB-50GB of disc space as HD-DVD can only carry 9GB.
    
    As for visual and high definition quality, they are pretty much the same.
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      Krunal | September 26, 2007
      HD-DVD can carry 15GB NOT 9GB. Your thinking DVD9 which has a max capacity of 9GB
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        Raziel_326 | September 26, 2007
        Still inferior, regardless.
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        Krunal | September 26, 2007
        You forget the HD-DVD is much cheaper than the Blu-Ray, that is pretty much Toshiba's main point to win the Format war at the moment.
        
        FYI, the VHS was inferior to Sony's previous VHS rival (can't remember what it was called), yet VHS came out top, so I wouldn't count HD-DVD out for the count just yet.
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        Raziel_326 | September 26, 2007
        I have a Blu-Ray (my PS3) and a HD-DVD player (connection on 360). My HD-DVD port is literally collecting dust, there's hardly anything for it, as most companies seem to be supporting Blu-Ray.
        
        The only company that supports HD-DVD that I really give a slight shit about is Paramount, and I believe even they are reconsidering what they have done. Michael Bay got heated when he heard Paramount made an exclusive deal with HD-DVD and even went as far as to threaten to cancel production for Transformers 2. Steven Spielberg doesn't want any of his movies on HD-DVD.
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  Kazooieman | September 26, 2007
  Then why doesn't HD just make another 41GB free space available? I don't have a dvd player that supports Blu-Ray!
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    Raziel_326 | September 26, 2007
    Well, that sucks for you doesn't it?
    
    HD-DVD is incapable of that. If HD-DVD wants that much space it's going to have to support Blu-Ray, as Blu-Ray is the only disc in the world at this moment that contains so much disc space.
    
    Supposedly in the future there will be a new kind of disc that can carry up to a whole terabyte of disc space, but hardly anybody will be able to afford that.
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      Krunal | September 26, 2007
      What are you talking about? HD-DVD and DVD9 are completely different discs. Standard Definition uses DVD9, High Definition uses both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.
      
      The max space they can get on the DVD9 is 9GB (hence the number 9 next to the DVD) and unable to create more space on the disc, they have to come up with an alternative source.
      
      As for your DVD Player not supporting it, soon one of the two will become standard. It's sort of like before DVD Players became standard with PC's. You'd only have a CD player, and you'd have to get an external one. So if you upgrade in the coming future, be sure to get one WITH a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD, mind you either can lose the format war.
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        Raziel_326 | September 26, 2007
        Hence why I edited that out awhile ago..
        
        Kru Edit: Editing it out doesn't mean that you never posted it