Honestly, I think this is pretty stupid.

Basically, he's bitching that they made Snake into a realisticly weak person, instead of a ridiculously badass guy.

1. No one, it doesn't matter how tough you are, could easily just up and kill themselves without hesitation or a moment of thought beforehand. It's not just something you decide to do and then just do it. I know Snake's killed countless people, but I'm pretty sure ending other peoples lives is different from ending your own. Anyone and everyone is afraid of death.

2. Homoerotic? I guess I can see how someone might get that, but, until I read this article, I've honestly never thought of Snake and Otacon being gay lovers.

I mean, I think it was pretty obvious that Snake was in love with Meryl in the Otacon ending that David Hayter seems to think was a bit gay. Snake gave that whole speech about her after she died, how he "gave into his fear, gave into his pain" and how he "couldn't protect her."

Honestly, you'd have to be pretty dumb to have not noticed that, especially if you're the one who actually did voice-overs for that speech.

I find his criticisms to be trivial and, in the case of the first bit, uneducated. Snake was already tough enough, it would be ridiculous if they made him any more manly.

I still like David Hayter, but I think he's being a bit ridiculous with this...

this is stupid and gay! what a waste of time.

There's such a difference between killing other people and pulling the trigger on yourself. Plus, I don't even think Solid Snake could kill Solid Snake. That's just how badass he is.

go that far for what? me?

Well I'll say the same thing I said on another forum:

I've never killed anybody, but I would think that taking someone's life is going to be different than taking your own. I don't think it matters how many people you have killed, your life is your life, and if you are human at all, it's only natural to hesitate committing suicide. After playing through the entire Metal Gear series, yes, we have all seen how Snake has been used, how he has been a pawn of different causes, how he killed countless soldiers, how he was artificially created, but he is still a human being. He has a heart, a mind, a sou, and emotional ties to the world that he lived in, no matter how twisted this world isl. I really don't know what David is getting at.

if you notice through out the series snake has always had can do attitude. he has a job a he does it. thats it. i dont think it was right for him to hesitate or even attempt to kill himself in the first place. i mean i know he thought he was a weapon and what not. but it just seems like a man who never gives up and can move mountains just gives up without even trying.

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You mean to tell me that people that have hung themselves or killed themselves in some other agonizing way (while leaving behind a note) just slipped and did it accidentally? I'm not saying they never thought twice or 50 times about it...whether they thought of it or not ultimately they came to the conclusion and they succeeded.

And NEXT TIME, you might NOT wanna come off as a wannabe smartass. It's a simple discussion, unnecessary sarcasm pisses the *bleep* outta me.

Lol, how about reading my comment before replying?

I didn't say the only way people can kill themselves is if they're insane of if they do it by accident. I said that people who kill themselves without hesitation must be insane or must do it by accident.

And NEXT TIME you might not wanna come off as an ignorant person. It's a simple comment to be read, and ignorance really pisses the *bleep* out of me...

The flinch is an interesting touch, I think they should keep it, to show Snake is human and has a mind and feelings. I don't get why this is so contreversial though, I mean I would be shocked if he did it, not the way he did it.

i bet hitler didn't flinch when he pulled the trigger.