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But I feel for the parents.I can't even imagine how I would feel if I lost a child so young.It's very sad
This really is a tragedy, though. R.I.P to the boy and I hope the parents are OK.
Okay, what part of Halo do you shoot yourself in the head ? What the hell was this kid thinking ?
I kid, I kid. Seriously, why do little kids get so easily influenced by a damn video game? Playing GT on the PSOne didn't convince me I could drive a real car, where did this kid get off thinking he could use real firearms because he played Halo???
Still, it's pretty sad. RIP, kid.
That's just the way things are though. We all did it as kids too. I know I went outside and pretended to be He-man or some G.I.Joe back in the day. And this story is no different. The only thing that makes it bad is that he had a real gun. And that is the real crux of the story. Imitating Halo has nothing to do with getting him killed. It was that he was playing with a gun. And that is what we should be more bothered about.
Shame, What a waste of life.
In situations like these, it seems like the parent can (and sometimes is) be charged with Criminal Negligence. I mean, these things seem to happen to families who don't hide their guns. Kids get shot, whether or not they play video games.
The kid for being stupid enough to skip school and to try to recreate a scene from a video game with a real firearm (loaded or not does not, doesn't matter).
The parents for being stupid enough to let such a young boy play a game clearly out of his age range and (at least from what it sounds like in the article) giving him his own firearm at such a young age.
This family fails.
But it gives you a lesson to not imitate video games
Problem 2: parents allowing a minor to play with real weapons without teaching him how to use them.
Problem 3: parents allowing their underage child to play a mature game
See where I'm going at with this?
And lol at Silver Mirror, getting 100+ points for this one article.
I also want to know if he got the recon armor for that suicide.
I realize I was arguing, which is a bit of a no-no, but it's not like I was being explicit. And I definitely know that I was right in defending the situation from people making a joke of it...
Wat-ev
Though I do believe Tekmosis saying even clicking on the article without rating it increases the rate itself automatically. Which acts like a rate up article thing. Im not 100% sure of his exact words but its something like this.
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RIP.
And holy shit at the 2k+ hits
And how do you shoot yourself in the head 'accidentally'?
I mean, yeah, I kinda feel bad, but I can't help but laugh at the utter stupidity of the entire family.
It's very sad.
Hopefully this will teach the Dad and Mom to actually look after what comes out of her vagina.
The fact is, a lot of people believe it is the parents fault, and they can express that if they wish. They aren't going to find the parents and shout at them for sucking at parenthood, of course not, but if they want to express their opinion on the subject they can. If that opinion is it was primarily the parents fault, then so be it.
To help you understand it a little though; The reason I, personally, feel the parents are most to blame is because, yes children are influential and, yes, they'll skip school and do silly things, but this incident could have been easily prevented. The fact they allow their son such open access to a gun, WITH ammo, is inexcusable. I know, things work different in the south of North America, I do understand that, but if you were a Samurai you wouldn't leave your sword in a room with a child, it's dangerous. VERY dangerous. I mean, what if the kid didn't aim the gun at himself, but pretended to be a sniper and, thinking it wasn't loaded, pretended to shoot at someone, which resulted in that persons death? It's just common sense and responsibility. I mean, simple common-sense practices (like double checking the gun wasn't loaded at all before returning from shooting) could have prevented this. I know they didn't do it on purpose or anything, but if they were a little more careful it could have been easily prevented, you know?
Ah well, small detail, gun laws are overall easier in America so it still applies. Let's just hope it was quick and painless for the poor kid anyway.
And besides, you know damn well the parents are gonna try and use the games as a scapegote to deter the blame away from them.
I'm not jumping on the school HOWEVER: why weren't the parents notified he was not in school? They obviously did not call him in, so why wouldn't they have called them at work to inquire about where he was? I'm forever on my kids schools about this and they are 16 & 18. Don't call me at 2pm to ask where my kid is: he may have been abducted ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL - how is the parent to know that he didn't make it unless notified?
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seriously though guns are possibly the stupidest thing to have its hard to shoot your self in the head with a tennis racket or a piece of cardboard way to go America you keep those *bleep* gun laws its just proving to us that natural selection works
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considered a censurable word this is Political correctness gone mad i tell ye!
1.never keep a loaded gun lying around.
2.idk how a game can make a kid point a gun to his head and pretend he got shot games are just a excuse anymore so parents can get away with this kind of stuff and not feel bad.
3.parents need to sit down with their children and be the good parents they say they are and talk to them about this stuff cuz kids are geting the hint i really hope this wakes parents up and encourges them to make sure this doesnt happen again by leting their kid know is right from wrong all it takes is one little talk thats all.
And this is all very sad i dont mean any kind of hurt to put the parents down or w/e but they need to know and now their gonna have to live with their sons life in their hands for the rest of their life now so god help them they will need it.
Yes, while tragic- the boy should not have been able to get his hands on any kind of rifle - regardless of caliber.
The parent's (or at least the one who's name is registered to the gun) are/is at fault for criminal negligence, endangering the welfare of a child, and a slew of other charges that all ultimately led to the boy's untimely death.
You are required by law- when there are small children in the household- to keep any and all firearms locked, separately from their ammunition, and unloaded.
1 - This is a horrible senseless death. I can't even imagine what he thought when it happened. Having raised boys, I can see how this may have happened, they think they are all ninja, start flipping around the gun, and unfortunately, it probably fell, aimed towards him and discharged.
I did NOT allow my children, or anyone else that came to my home, to play with 'toy guns'. I did allow water guns, and they were BRIGHT orange, or greens - anything to signify TOY to the children.
My own father was strict regarding this. He kept his hunting rifles in the bedroom closet. We all knew they were there. We did NOT go near them. I am very sure that the ammunition was kept in the basement, probably in the rafters, but again: we didn't go looking for trouble. Dad said 'don't ever touch them' and we didn't.
That has happened many times in WI. A boy just died last fall of the same thing, him and his friend were playing around with the fathers gun, both had taken hunters safety classes, but it doesn't matter: children should NOT be allowed to do so. They are children and apt to act like children.
2 - (this almost was overturned to allow 8 YEAR OLDS TO BE ALLOWED TO HUNT last fall) The state of Wisconsin allows children at the age of 12 to hold, operate and discharge rifles for hunting, IF they have taken and passed the hunters safety course, and have a certificate. They must be with an adult at the time. Children at 11 can take the class as well, but are limited to what they can hunt. At the age of 14, they are ALLOWED BY LAW to go out hunting alone. That's right. ALONE. If a child has not completed the course under the age of 16, they must be with a parent or legal guardian over the age of 18 in order to shoot/hunt. Which is nonsense. Anyone born after 1973, in the state of WI, must complete this class in order to hunt, and to procure a hunting license.
The hunter education course instills in students the knowledge, skill and attitude to be a responsible and safe hunter. The basic course consists of 10 lessons during a minimum of 10 hours (although most are around 18 hours, and still NOT long enough IMO). Students learn how hunting accidents are caused and how they can be prevented. Hunter responsibility and safety are stressed throughout the classes, which consist of lectures, demonstrations, group discussions, practical exercises, and individual study and activity assignments.
3 - RE WI laws and firearms:
a new law was enacted in 1991, picked up from Florida's law, but MUCH laxer, unfortunately. It also follows Virginia law in the reckless policy:
The Virginia law states that it is "unlawful to recklessly leave a loaded firearm so as to endanger the life or limb of any child under the age of fifteen".
(The "reckless" standard will make prosecution very difficult and the law has no requirement that dealers post warnings
WISCONSIN LAW:
If a child obtains a gun through negligent storage and exhibits it in public, the penalty is a misdemeanor. The penalty is a felony if an injury occurs.
Child is defined as anyone under the age of 14.
THAT said: there is NO law that mandates locking up your firearms in the state of Wisconsin. Nor keeping your ammunition separate from the firearm.
The local PD's will pass out, and gladly do so!, trigger locks to help protect citizens and children, but there is NO law people.
It is to my knowledge that Wisconsin has Child Access Prevention Laws on the books, which would "Require adults to either store loaded guns in a place that is reasonably inaccessible to children, or use a device to lock the gun. If a child obtains an improperly stored, loaded gun, the adult owner is criminally liable."
And here would be where I pulled that fact from - which is more than I can say about your statements (not that I doubt them- you just failed to provide any source)
Never in a million years did I think I would actually refer to the Brady Campaign in a "positive" light in a gun control argument.
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Really? I could have sworn I read someone saying 'yeah, but things work differently in the South' so I just assumed
Ah well, small detail, gun laws are overall easier in America so it still applies. Let's just hope it was quick and painless for the poor kid anyway.
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Things DO work differently in the south. I think kids are on the whole, more intelligent in regards to firearms. Kids in rural WI are raised with hunting in their infancy, but that's seasonal. Hunting in the south is all year round, for the most part.
And MO as a mom in Wisconsin : the parents are paying the price. Not the heaviest, since it's the boy that paid the ultimate price.
1.the kid had a gun
2.the kid did not know gun safety
3.the kid skipped school
4.the kid became obsessed with the game
5.the kid played halo
All 5 are (or rather should be) under the parents control. number 5 Microsoft has some hand in but in the defense we do sell more harmful and dangerous things like smokes, booze, and guns. and the gun company had a hand in number 1 but i their deference, well that is their job selling guns oh an by the we most likely NOT to 11 year old kids.
in the parents defense, i guess you can give the "boys are boys" excuse for 4&5 possibly 3 but at age 11 no kid should be able to skip school that easy.the first 2 are entirely in the parents control. hell i am 22 and still can not get to my dads ammo so yah i should say you can keep weapons in the house and out of reach of children.
all in all sorry for being so blunt but it is sadly true. may the boy rest in peace and my prayers and best wises are with the parents.
Wisconsin has Child Access Prevention Laws on the books, which would "Require adults to either store loaded guns in a place that is reasonably inaccessible to children, or use a device to lock the gun. If a child obtains an improperly stored, loaded gun, the adult owner is criminally liable."
And here would be where I pulled that fact from - which is more than I can say about your statements (not that I doubt them- you just failed to provide any source)
I mean, COME ON! What are they thinking, thats probably why those states have high "Gun" crimes. I'm not surprised.
But on the other side i now know never to go to Californa Connecticut, Delaware, Flordia, Hawaii (Damn it) Illinois, Iowa, Maryland( That's not that merry) Massachuesets, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshere, New Jersey, North Carolina, Rhode Island, Texas, Virgina and wisconsin.
But even if it is ok, what kind of parents WOULD ACTUALLY give thier kids acscess to a gun?!
Surely if i was a parent i would NEVER ever buy a gun. Thats why when i'm a parent i'm spending my money on new bikes, nice food and a decent place to live (And poop).
Also, doesn't parents ever read game ratings, AND who would have bought him such a violent game. I'm not going to play the blame game bu i'm not buying...: A Gun or any violent games. And Kids, don't copy this one.
One last thing before i kill my fingers with too much typing, what is that picure of, who and when and why?!
Is there a glitch?
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OMG?!?!!?!?!?!
I really feel for the parents of these kids. This is why parents need to pay more attention and get involved in their kids lives, activities and pleasures (even if they whine that the parents are being overbearing).
This is also why I absolutely HATE, I repeat HATE AND LOATHE ENTIRELY, when companies advertise mature products in a manner that is attractive and appealing to kids, and when the public goes along with it, and finds little to nothing wrong with kids enjoying such a product. It's irresponsible on the publics' hand, and makes parenting so much harder.
My prayers are for the family
Next time, please take note of what I posted, please. Really, re-read it and see if you understand what I am saying.
where in my post did I ever say anything extremely defensive about your comment?!(reading comprehension FTW) and since when was it the game devs fault? the game has a mature label on it, they bought the game for thier kid, the parents were OK with thier kid playing with a gun...yeah I'm sure parenting was hard for them.(sarcasm)
all in all, it was just bad parenting in general that cost this kid his life. Its in no way the game devs fault.
Let me ask this, is it STRICTLY the fault of a parent if you have your kid in your front yard, and your neighbor starts smoking pot in front of you child, then blows the smoke in the child's face, and tells the child how much fun it is . . . and the child smokes a bit? That is the same as if game devs advertise in a way that makes the game appealing to kids, instead of advertising their game in a way that is directed at adults alone. THAT is what I was complaining about. But I won't continue on with this, take it as you will, I've made my say and only illogical arguments would face it.
This article is about the death of a child, which is a very sad affair, I will not change the mood to something else.
I'm sorry to say that it's both the parents' and the child's faults. Little Josh should have learned by now - he's 11! - that playing with guns is an incredibly stupid thing. Not only this, but the parents having put it in such an obvious place where the child can get it is always stupid, no matter what age the child might be.
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