Between openly saying what's flawed about his game and giving it a personal review score, Fable II creator Peter Molyneux is a bit of an odd bird. Well, review copies have been sent out, and he's attached a little note to them with a certain special request of journalists. Read it in the quote, and some more interesting bits at the source, if you like. Bless you, Molyneux!

Like most such review copies, all three came with information about the game, tips for reviewers to make sure they don't get stuck and see all the best stuff, etc. But "Fable II" comes with something more unusual -- A letter from Peter Molyneux with a specific request for reviewers:

I have a favour to ask you -- we build this game not only to appeal to gamers like yourself, but to appeal to anybody. So please, please, please, please, pleae find somebody who doesn't play games, watch them play it and see how their world turns out, because I think it's only when you see those differences that the unique experiences comes through.

It's a good suggestion. Then again, I think it's a good suggestion for most games, at least if you're writing for a publication like Variety where a good number of our readers are not avid gamers. On the other hand, I think reviewers (at least for non-core publications) should be able to analyze how a more casual player would experience the game. It's kind of part of the job. And while I sometimes do and probably will in the case of "Fable II" get a casual player to try it out, I can't realistically ask them to play it for 10 or 20 hours in order to "see how their world turns out."
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  • 2
    Big Willie Oct 8, 08
    I can understand where he's coming from with a comment like that. I believe that a game like fable, with it's simple open-ended play system with a universal story would be far easier for a non-gamer to grasp and respect than say an overly complicated game such as Mass Effect.
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      Kim Jong Il Oct 8, 08
      Not an unreasonable request.

      I did lol when WWE asked reviewers not to show images of Triple H in a vulnerable position when review the latest SD! game.


      edit: That was meant to just be a normal comment. Not a response to your comment, Big Willie.
  • 1
    kik36 Oct 8, 08
    I like the way the guy thinks. Personally I would like to see both sides in the same review. The gamer and non gamer can have a nice dialog about what appeals to them both and what doesn't and we can compare for ourselves.
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      chautemoc Oct 8, 08
      Really good idea for a feature!
    • 1
      kspiess Oct 8, 08
      But how many non-gamers uh, play games?

      I don't know about this idea. Though I guess it would work for maybe a one-time thing for certain games aimed at more casual crowd, like Spore.

      I think Molyneux calling Fable 2 a casual game, or a game aimed at non-gamers, is a bit of stretch. I think its totally a marketing idea. Possibly to excuse lack of depth. (I'm just guessing -- haven't been following this game too too closely.)

      If you don't believe me, next time you talk to a friend that isn't into games at all, try to sell him on the idea of playing a fantasy RPG called Fable 2. I bet you it would be a tough sell. I would guess that a non-gamer would stop listening after he hears "fantasy RPG."

      Non-gamers aren't going to rush out to buy a fantasy RPG, and I'm not sure how many people "who don't play games" own a Xbox 360.

      Have you ever met someone who bought a Xbox 360 who doesn't play games?

      And if Molyneux did design his game for people who don't play games, doesn't that also seem like sort of a flawed idea?
      • 1
        chautemoc Oct 8, 08
        Aw cmon now, he didnt say it was aimed at casual gamers/non-gamers, he said it was made for everybody.

        On the topic of genre..that's one reason I try to stay away from them..if they just sat down and played the game without any notion of genre in mind..they might be surprised at how much they like it. Gotta start somewhere.
      • 0
        Final Blade Oct 8, 08
        I have to agree with your post kspiess.
      • 0
        Capn Droid Oct 9, 08
        Ever since the Wii, *bleep*ing everybody.
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        Seproth Oct 11, 08
        I think most non-gamers. Aren't non-gamers because they don't want to play games. It's just never been an interest to them. "It's for kids, it's just a hobby I don't need, etc..."

        It wouldn't be hard to get someone to try it.

        Example- I really don't like comics. I don't like the format. However, I wanted to read Watchmen. So I did, now I can see myself reading more graphic novels in the future. I was just standing in the way of myself.
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    HawkMan78 Oct 8, 08
    of course you would, you're an idiot just like spies is. Peter never said the game is aimed at casual gamers or non gamers. its made for everyone.kSpies seems to be going on some *bleep* rant making it seem peter thinks fable is suddenly going to get non gamers interested in gaming and suddenly buy a 360 for it.Peter simply wants the reviewers to guage a non-gamer's response.

    reading comprehension takes you a long way everyone.
    • 0
      Final Blade Oct 8, 08
      Funny that I agree with the points he made, not so much of what he thought Peter stated.

      But you calling me an idiot is funny though. Especially since you're one to talk.
      • 0
        Capn Droid Oct 9, 08
        Care to explain, with you very witty retort?
      • 0
        HawkMan78 Oct 10, 08
        "Especially since you're one to talk"

        I can talk?! holy shit!

        "Funny that I agree with the points he made, not so much of what he thought Peter stated."

        Given the fact that his entire post is about what he thought peter said, you still agreed with the entire thing.

        again reading comprehension folks.
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          Final Blade Oct 11, 08
          You know, being a smartass usually makes you fail. I meant your previous encounters in articles with me and several members you continued showing off your trolling, idiotic self in.

          Again, he made good points. Get over the fact that people may like how someone structured their comments and points they made.

          If you spent less time trolling or looking to insult others, maybe people would like you.

          @Capn read ^. However if you still don't get what im saying, PM me and we'll chat.
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    Big Willie Oct 9, 08
    You guys confuse casual games with non-conventional games. I think he was just going for the fact that this game is non-conventional because you can play with your dog and build a family. I think those are the features that would appeal to a non-gamer.
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    HawkMan78 Oct 11, 08
    "you know, being a smartass usually makes you fail."

    No, I don't know anything about fail.I'm glad to have a pro like you teach me what it is.

    "I meant your previous encounters in articles with me and several members you continued showing off your trolling, idiotic self in."

    awww, I have fans?!

    "Again, he made good points. Get over the fact that people may like how someone structured their comments and points they made."

    he went ona *bleep* rant that pretty much had nothing to with what Peter or the article said or meant to implied.

    "if you spent less time trolling or looking to insult others, maybe people would like you."

    1) I don't troll.

    2) Who the hell cares about other people's opinion on the net. I'm not looking to suck up to you or anyone else for that matter. stop catching feelings.

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