Our very own Deathsythe gives commentary on what Obama's recent victory could mean for gamers, sheds some light as to how the wool seemingly has been pulled over our eyes, and calls to rally what "could be one of the biggest special interest groups out there" - Gamers.

That reality is that Senator Obama may have questionable views when it comes to video games. One of his opponents during primary season was the infamous Hillary Clinton, another Democrat who has done everything in her power to block games such as GTA IV and Manhunt from ever seeing the light of day.

Gamers seem to also have forgotten that the same man also generalized them all as underachievers.
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    HisServant77 Nov 10, 08
    It seems most people, especially gamers, paid more attention to how different Obama was in terms of having a black president, and someone different from the norm in the presidency, instead of what he actually believes and will do. Most took the ads in which he mentioned gamers, as a "Wow we're being recognized" and were all for him being president, and forgot that it takes more than that to make a good president. Look at what he stands for. If you agree with everything he goes for, then be all for him and happy. However . . . if not, well . . . not much you can do about it now.

    But, politics is such an irritating thing . . . and with the election over, all we can do is wait and see what comes from this.
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    Deathsythe Nov 10, 08
    I would rather not wait-and-see. I am not a wait and see kind of guy.

    This election has made me even more pro-active, I am taking up the sword and fighting more and more for what is right. I hope I can count on the majority of the gaming community to stand behind me as I express the view that parents need to be responsible for the children, not programmers.

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      HisServant77 Nov 10, 08
      I agree with standing up and fighting for our rights (as gamers but also every one in general). The past has shown that too often the loud minority overwhelms the silent majority, right?

      So, indeed it's time we all become pro-active about the government and our rights. What I mean by wait and see though, is . . . what is going to happen now. We'll see if this person will flip flop, or stand with his former politics, or what.
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      Daigoji_Gai Nov 11, 08
      Well done Deathsythe. What we've forgotten in this country is that the role of a citizen doesn't end once the election is over. It is our job to be informed of the issues and be active in writing to our senators and congressman. Holding them accountable.... There is still much work to be done, and simply casting a vote and saying "hey I voted" doesn't mean the end of the role of a citizen in a democracy.

      Just saying, ok, back to gaming.
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    Play ISDF Nov 10, 08
    As I said in the underachiever article, he didn't actually call us underachievers. It was somewhat implied, but was NOT said.

    Anyway I doubt Obama is really going to do anything as far as putting laws on games go. But none the less he has been using us as an easy target.
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    Koloth Nov 10, 08
    Meh, more Deathsythe Obama attacks. *yawn*

    As for gamers rights, that's all well and good. However we have a rating system in place. If any laws should be enacted they should be to enforce the rating system and perhaps to regulate it. Anything beyond that is unconstitutional and we can deal with it on that level.

    HisServant is right though. There is no point in getting up in arms about something that hasn't even happened yet. How are you going to protest or attack something that isn't there?
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      Final Blade Nov 11, 08
      He's basically saying why wait when we can pro act and prevent it from even starting.

      Also the gaming rating system is shit anyway. What they should do is make a universal rating system worldwide instead of these different systems in other countries like Australia for example. Until then the system is heavily flawed imo, just like Obama's views with politics. But I won't touch on that any further.
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        Koloth Nov 11, 08
        There is nothing to prevent. Obama isn't going to make a federal case of video game laws. This is just Deathsythe being himself and looking for any reason what so ever to attack Obama. If he was really concerned about gamers rights the artcle would be about that and not slanted at Obama.
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          Deathsythe Nov 11, 08
          Lies. Slander and Lies.

          I would have the same stance if any Democrat was in office. Come to think of it, if (God forbid) Hillary got in, I would probably have taken an even stronger stance.

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          Final Blade Nov 11, 08
          Oh ok, then let me make up a random situation. What if it was Jack Thompson which had the same views like Obama, who has been elected by the voters and Deathsythe was in your position telling us "Its just Koloth being himself and looking for any reason what so ever to attack Jack Thompson".
          Would you not do the same thing, despite the fact Jack is clearly against games as is Obama? I wouldn't be surprised if Jack Thompson is a democrat.
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          Koloth Nov 11, 08
          FB, shut up. You don't know a damn thing. Do I go out every day and look for things to attack Bush about? No, because I don't f'ing care that much. Yes I hate Bush, yes I wanted him out of office. But I have better things to do with my time than look for things to attack him on. And it isn't as if he hasn't given us plenty of ammunition. Hell, even many Republicans dislike him.

          As for JT if you look around I DON'T go out of my way to look for reasons to attack him either. If on the off chance that he were elected (yea right) I would accept it and move on. Why? Because again I don't f'ing care. Had McCain won I would accept that too. Because anyone woud have to be better than Bush.

          Like it or not the American public made their choice and we are all going to have to accept it and live with it for at least the next 4 years. Every Democrat in the US dealt with it for the last 8 without constantly attacking Bush. The worst you got from any of us was "see, we told you". But Obama isn't even in office yet and the Republicans are jumping about like a bunch of rabid dogs. It is absolutely ridiculus.

          And yes DS I know you would attack any democrat. But Obama is the one that won. So naturally you attack him.
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          Deathsythe Nov 11, 08
          In FB's defense - the Republicans really are behaving no worse today than the Democrats did when Bush got re-elected.


          And K; you did just acknowledge that my attack here has nothing to do with the fact that it is Obama, just the fact that is a Democrat, right? It wasn't targeted specifically towards him - it just happens to be about him because he happens to be the one who won. (Just trying to understand your response)

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          Koloth Nov 11, 08
          Yes, DS I know you don't hate Obama because he is Obama but because he is a Democrat.

          I at least respect you for not falling back on the usual republican attacks that Obama is "a muslim", "a terrorist", "a evil black man". I know you're better than that lot at least.
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          Deathsythe Nov 11, 08
          As partisan as I may be I do still try to follow rules of conventional debate It is much more convincing to stick to your convictions and come off as at least moderately intelligent then belt out some of the other crap that gets spewed out.

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          Final Blade Nov 12, 08
          HAHAHA oh wow. Koloth seriously get off your high horse. My "made up" sitaution was making a rather blunt point about people against video games. That is all, and you being a gamer yourself and a intelligent man, I figured my scenario would actually make sense to you as what Deathsythe is clearly doing. This has nothing to do with republicans, since as Deathysthe stated, they're behaving just as bad. The point is, whether you personally want to believe it or not, Deathysthe has a reason to be up arms. Hillary is fully against video games, as is Obama. And using JT in this example(which was perfect knowing how he's against it as well) proves that it doesn't matter who gets elected, but if they're against video games, and someone is trying to keep their right to gaming, will do everything and anything to save their rights. You telling me to shut up is not only offensive, but clearly out of line. I meant no disrespect to you in anyway whats so ever with my made up situation, and sorry if you did. Just trying to show its not just about him being himself looking for any reason to attack Obama. Rather his views on games, as I'll have to admit, I don't give a damn about politics, but I do agree and stand by what Deathysthe has stated here.

          I too also dislike Obama for his views, as I stated before in threads, and still am. But I've also, like you, have acknowledged the people chose and voted for him, and accepted the outcome. And congrats to him, but that doesn't mean im going to like any of his views either. I've also stated both McCain and Obama are terrible candidates as well, but I preferred McCain slightly more. However I should note that unfortunately for Obama, when he gets to office will have alot more issues to deal with then this country alone. And I won't say what, but you'll know what I mean due to people out there.

          As for the second time, I can't stress my post was not meant to be taken offensively or meant any disrespect. Sorry if you took it as that, but clearly that wasn't my intention. Seriously Koloth, you know me better than that. I have respected you for as long as I remember, i'd never do something like that. Also sorry for the long post.
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          Koloth Nov 12, 08
          No, he doesn't have a reason to be up in arms because Obama hasn't done ANYTHING yet. Getting up in arms about a "possible" scenario that hasn't and probably won't happen is ridiculus and a waste of time. There are so many better ways to be spending our time than worrieing about imagined scenarios.

          If and when Obama does something I don't like I'll be right there with you in the picket line. But until then I'm not going to get upset about mights and coulds.

          And Obama victory means nothing to gamers to be quite honest. I'm far more concerned about what he is going to do with the economy, the war, and so on. The issues that really matter. Gamers rights is at the very very bottom of a very long list of issues that need to be dealt with.
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    streetcarp81 Nov 10, 08
    obama has alot more to think about than videogames. there is no reason to even worry about this. If anything they will enforce the ratings system in terms of actually checking ids for purchasing games and imposing greater fines and punishment for those retailers that sell those games to underage kids. kind of a waste of an article.
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    Gutter_Tech Nov 10, 08
    everyone is looking for a reason to attack obama, but he's only the predident elect at the moment. when something happens then you can bitch, but until then you're going to have to sit and wait. complaining wont accomplish shit right now.
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      Daigoji_Gai Nov 11, 08
      Amen gutter, amen... and given that he already had plans for a transition team from three months ago, and is very meticulous when it comes to planning, I don't think it will be anytime soon before we can itch...
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    DragoniteBallZ Nov 11, 08
    Didn't he say he believes more in parental involvement than for the government to do more to prevent children from getting their hands on violent games?
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    fffangold Nov 11, 08
    Yes Dragonite, that is basically his stance. At least what he's said of it so far, and I'm inclined to believe him until he says or acts otherwise.
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    BANDITO ATTACK Nov 11, 08
    gamer gights
    WE ARE A PROUD PEOPLE OF HOME CONSOLE-PURCHASERS WITH RICH CULTURAL ROOTS RESPECT US.

    this is an important issue of our generation, everybody get out your soapbox, i got pamphlets printing at kinkos right now!
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    ShadowJ Nov 12, 08
    Personally this doesn't affect me unless Gordon Brown gets a bright idea and decides to follow like Blair did with Bush, however to state that gamers are underachievers is a slight exaggeration.

    So what if I force myself out of the local and corrupt system of society by turning my body clock upside down and play videogames for days on end? I still get up for work, I still work, I get paid, I pay my dues and most importantly I get screwed over by the government and life in general.

    Hell I would rather be addicted to video games than drugs or gangs.

    However it seems Obama is going for the parents rather than the gamers and indeed he should. It is the same with obesity, ok both are the person's choice, you choose to play games and you choose to excessively eat, yet without parental support, the person will just continue.

    I have played video games for as long as I can remember, my parents weren't restrictive with anything but they weren't lenient either. It was only when I was a teenager I began to stay up late and play games for god knows how long, however I followed one rule "Act like an adult, you get treated as one, act like a kid and you get treated as one" In other words I was allowed to do adult things, within boundaries of course and supervision as long as I acted like one and took responsibility.

    That is what current parents are lacking, not only that but this generation of parents are kids themselves. The percentage of teenage pregencies has shot up more than past percentages, so it is no wonder why kids of today are like they are when their own parents are only able to do the same as well.

    As to gamers between 18-25, well I am 21, like I say, I work, I pay my way, I socialise yet I find time to play games excessively, write reviews for them and even write stories and fan fiction...so yeah, really I am the biggest under achiever in the gaming group

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