The price of the Playstation 3 has come under fire many times, and this time is no different, as GamePlayer gone out against the Playstations 3's pricing point comparing it to the XBOX360 and taking a look at other comparable products.

Things looked at include the Arcade and Premium version of the XBOX360 and various other Blu-ray players on the market.

We just believe that the fact that you can buy…
  • an Xbox 360, a Blu-ray player and a blockbuster game (say a Gears of War 2 or a Fable 2)
  • a Premium Xbox 360 (now AU$399) and a Blu-ray Player
  • or an Xbox 360 and a Nintendo Wii

…for the same price as one PS3 is hard to ignore for the millions of mums that are about to hit the shops looking for a game console.
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  • 2
    Krunal Nov 13, 08
    I got the same product prices from Amazon, in Pounds, note that there is also a special offer that if you get X360 Premium or Playstation 3 then you can get a selected game for £10:

    XBOX360 Premium (£159.98) + Fable II (£10) + Blu-ray Player (£149.99) = £320

    Playstation 3 (£289.97) + FIFA 09 (£10)+ HDMI Cable (Free) = £300

    So essentially, in the UK at least, according to this (and I did try to find the cheapest blu-ray player on Amazon), the PS3 is NOT equal to X360, Blu-ray Player, and 1 game, you actually save £20 and on top of that don't forget that as far as the online fees go, the PS3 becomes £60 cheaper the first year itself (though you do get more of a quality with XBOX Live...)
    • 1
      Kim Jong Il Nov 13, 08
      ...eh? The first 13 months of XBL costs £35, not £60.
      • 0
        Krunal Nov 13, 08
        I thought it was £40, hence I did £20 initial saving + £40 saving after that... so in turn it's still a £55 saving in the first year if you plan to go online.
        • 0
          Kim Jong Il Nov 13, 08
          Ah. I thought you were saying XBL = 60quid.
  • 0
    lord of vice city Nov 13, 08
    take into consideration addtional costs

    rechargeable batteries (£20), wireless(£50), HD drive(£150), XBL(£40)

    ps3's going rate is £300, 360 £120-£200
    its all well and good, buying a cheap 360, till you need batteries, and to go online all costs a fair bit

    for all the built in features (for which i use heavily) of the ps3, your getting around same price
    • 0
      Livewire_19 Nov 13, 08
      Most people really don't need those extras right away, not only that if you can hold off from Blu-ray a bit longer you'll be able to get a player really cheap. And good rechargeable AA batteries cost next to nothing and can be replaced if they go bad, so that argument doesn't hold water.
      If you absolutely have to have all these features all at once the PS3 is a better deal.

      Krunal how can you compare Fifa to Fable?
      I mean everybody knows that Fifa 09 is just sooo much more awesome.
      • 1
        Krunal Nov 13, 08
        I agree with you about the batteries, there's no need to get the �20 batteries when there are cheaper alternatives. However the Harddrive has become a must for most these days, and especially since NXE will mean that people will have to install games to the Harddrives if they want to lower the loading times (Something everyone wants to do now, but complained about the PS3 doing that...).

        The only feature that I can think of that is really an optional is the Blu-ray player, and yes you are paying that bit extra just for the blu-ray player capabilities, but personally I feel that the Blu-ray player is certainly worth it, and I'm finding myself trying to get my favourite movies on Blu-ray rather than DVDs purely for the quality and content.

        But I'm sure there are people out there don't have HDTVs....

        Oh and as for comparing Fable to FIFA2009, I was trying to link to a page that had more games, but couldn't but you can get to the page that I was trying to link to through the other links...
        • 1
          Final Blade Nov 13, 08
          quote
          (Something everyone wants to do now, but complained about the PS3 doing that...)
          Well the difference here is, the NXE installation of game is optional where as the PS3 is mandatory. But either way I agree how ironic it is. Maybe now some install haters and saying "but the 360 doesn't make you install" to be quiet. But unfortunately I doubt that.
        • 1
          Krunal Nov 13, 08
          Isn't the whole fact that it makes the X360 much faster and MUCH quiter mean that people WILL be installing the games. (I know I would if I could... in fact I can and I do... even the optional installs like in Vakyria Chronicles).

          The NXE also means that harddrive-less will need to buy the Harddrive, and lets not forget its �140 for 120GB on the X360, where its �50 for 250GB on PS3

          Point being, if they want to argue pricing points, there is more than 1 way to counter the arguements.

          At the end of the day, you should ONLY buy consoles based on the GAMES. Each console has exclusives, so pick the exclusives you like better and buy that console for christmas. It's not that hard to do.
        • 0
          Final Blade Nov 13, 08
          Im not sure about the installs making the 360 faster, quieter yes, and cutscenes and loading times also benefit for the games. The only game to take a opposite bad effect for the 360 is Halo 3.

          Im not debating about price, in the end they all seem to be the same for me. But the PS3 installs does benefit as well though.
        • 0
          Krunal Nov 14, 08
          Actually it was confirmed with this article that the loading times were cut severely in many cases: http://www.gamegrep.com/faqs/15728-xbox_360_nxe_hard_drive_install_chart_so_how_much_time_are_you_saving/

          And the PS3 install does benefit, but the only thing is due to it being mandataory, no-one has anything to compare against unlike the optional installs of the X360. Though I know I'm going to install all games anyway, I'd rather it do it automatically than me having to select to do it (like I did with VC).
    • 0
      Krunal Nov 13, 08
      The Premium version comes with Wireless and a Harddrive which was why that was chosen as the one to compare rather than the Arcade version. Not too sure about rechargeable batteries, but are they necessary?

      Also if you know where to get the item from you can get get a PS3 (albeit 40GB) for around £200 (hell I'm selling one for that one - brand new [/shameless advertising]). So I agree it is cheaper overall than the XBOX360 if you want all the features.
  • 2
    HisServant77 Nov 13, 08
    This is just a feeble attempt by fanboys (beginning to believe they are the bane of humanity, or getting there), to bash the competing system before the big rush of sales forthcoming. Especially seeing a rise in the competitor's sales, they become desperate.

    Honestly, we spent way more on the 360 within the first year, than on the PS3! And take into consideration that I bought my launch PS3 and the accessories, totaling roughly about $1,000 so that is a LOT!

    I seriously get sick and tired of people bashing the consoles. It's irritating! If Price is what everyone goes by, excluding the features and their costs too, then we should really advertise the Wii since that is the most inexpensive!
    • 0
      Koloth Nov 14, 08
      quote
      we should really advertise the Wii since that is the most inexpensive!
      Actually it's not. The Wii thrives on accessories. All of which add to the cost of the system. Consider Wii Motion Plus. The balance board. The cassic controller. All of the ridiculus add-ons for the Wii-mote. And multiple SD cards if you want to do anything other than save game data.

      The Wii can easily be the most expensive console depending on how vital you consider some of those things to be. And even if you don't care about any of them you still can't get a comparable multi-media experience out of the Wii. It is exclusively a gaming console. So the addition price of the 360 and PS3 would be for the media functions. Where as the Wii would require you to buy a DVD or Blu-ray player anyway.
      • 0
        HisServant77 Nov 14, 08
        True, but I was talking about basic console, excluding additional features and accessories.

        The way I see actual cost, is the PS3 is most expensive at the first maybe (or about the same as 360) but then as months go on, it because the least expensive. Then comes the 360 is average expensive at first and gets worse as time goes on. The Wii is the cheapest at first, but then like you said the attachments and all that, and games they advertise that make you want to buy them for parties alone (even though you may not like them, it makes them feel like must-haves!) raise the cost indeed. Especially since you'll also want multiple wiimotes
        (I speak from my personal experiences on all those consoles.)

        But, again, I was speaking in my first comment, about basic cost excluding peripherals and features.
        • 0
          Koloth Nov 14, 08
          Maybe. But Going over what i spent on each to start. The PS3 cost me $700 to start. That was with one game. The 360 ran me about $400 to start with one game but that was two years after launch. The Wii cost me $400 with 2 games and an extra controller. Now to be fair if I bought the PS3 today it would likely cost me about $500 with one game.

          Now this was the cost I paid to get them out of the box and setup on my preexisting HDTV. So the real up front expense of all three consoles isn't vastly different. But the PS3 provides a bit more functionality out of the box for only slightly more. On top of that the PS3 doesn't have a great deal of increasing costs over time other than games. So as you said in the long run the PS3 is cheaper. And in the short run it really isn't all that much more to begin with, and you get more for the money.
      • 0
        Linkerd101 Nov 18, 08
        But also if youre smart, buy 2 SD cards one small (286-512 MB) and one bog SD card (2 GB - 4GB) so you can softmod your Wii to get a homebrew channel which allows you to play DVD's and much more.
        • 0
          Koloth Nov 18, 08
          Didn't know you could do that. Doesn't matter though, I have the PS3 and 360 and plenty of DVD players. I bought the Wii for my son anyway so I'm not real interested in modding it or anything like that.
  • 3
    Gamesta100 Nov 13, 08
    No matter how many times people bash the price of the PS3, I will forever be happy that I bought a PS3 on launch.

    The way I see it, if you really want something, you try and get it no matter what the cost.

    If you're not willing to pay the price, then you don't really want it, nor do you really deserve it.

    If your income doesn't allow it, then that's a different matter.
    • 2
      Mr Gray Nov 13, 08
      Thanks you for pointing that out. It's a true statement that console trolls will deny up and down. If you aren't personally willing to try something you can't really dog it while preaching smack-talk indicative of first-hand experience. :\
    • 1
      HawkMan Nov 13, 08
      if you don't wnat to buy something, how do you not deserve it? I really hate *bleep* fanboys like yourself.

      If a person doesn't want something badly probably see the item not even worth the effort. The PS3 doesn't have any games to die for,especially at that price point if you wantall the features. get over yourself.


      The 360 has really good games and the price point of the system makes the buy overall pretty worthwhile.

      I'm still holdin out on buying the PS3,price point waise I wouldn't feel good spending on the cash for a few select games I want.
      • 1
        Gamesta100 Nov 13, 08
        I hate people like you that throw the term 'fanboy' around so damn easily.

        I would have said the same damn thing if it was the 360 or the Wii that had so many complaints about the price.

        I don't give two damn shits what console you or anyone else wants/likes.

        If you want a console enough you buy it.If you don't want it that much then don't buy it.But don't go complaining like a snotty little 5 year old.

        I personally will not buy a 360 til a version I am willing to buy is no more than Au$300.But you don't hear me complaining saying the 360 cost to much.
        • 1
          HawkMan Nov 13, 08
          "I personally will not buy a 360 til a version I am willing to buy is no more than Au$300.But you don't hear me complaining saying the 360 cost to much."

          Actually you are. You pretty much did rigth there in that sentence. But hey if you are willing to pay for PS3 with a so-so online service, next to no BC, compared to an inexpensive console with BC and a great online network, the price point of the console right now is very much worth it. ...I find it hard to find such a complaint of the pice of the 360 to be dumb and baseless. get off your high horse buddy.
        • 2
          Final Blade Nov 14, 08
          Hawkman, do you even read what people post or are you just trolling again? Gamesta said in his first comment he's glad he got his PS3 at LAUNCH. Meaning 60GB PS3 with full BC. Yea thats what he said. He paid more money for the best system out there for the price. So clearly you're mistaken. Also he wasn't complaining in his post, what he said was you don't hear me complaining about the 360 price in every damn comment(since he used it as an example) like some people here do with the PS3. Thats the point he's making. Until the 360 is at a reasonable price for him, he won't get it, not to mention the fact the 360 isn't offering anything interesting for him to shell out the money to buy it.

          If you truly wanted a PS3, especially the best one people are complaining about no longer out in the stores, you'll find a way to get it. Thats basically what he said and I 100% agree with him. I saved a years worth of allowance and birthday+Christmas money to get the system. And Im truly happy I did. 60GB PS3 FTW.
        • 1
          Kim Jong Il Nov 14, 08
          You saved a years worth of allowance? Aren't you in your 20's?
        • 2
          Krunal Nov 14, 08
          HawkMan, I think your point about the PS3 having a "So-So" is much to be debated. TO me it's perfect, albeit I haven't tried that of the XBOX360's, but I can't see what the online experiance of the XBOX360 can give me that's better than that of the PS3, and that's worth �35 a year/13 months.

          And having a PS3 with near-full BC that was worth it, and your wrong saying that the 80GB/40GB has no BC, it has FULL BC with PSX games, and for many people, PSX games are still god, and if you want to play PS2 games, the PS2 doesn't cost that much, and it's not like it's a dead console, unlike the XBOX which has stopped selling and stopped being manufactured.

          The price of both consoles is in my eyes fair given what they both include. With a Blu-ray player, the PS3 is more than a fair price at the moment, and without one, the same holds true for the XBOX360.

          And Kim Jong, I don't see what that has to do with anything to be honest... I'm 21, yet if I want to get something, I usually get the money of my parents (if it's expensive, otherwise I'd pay for the smaller things in life) - granted that's part of my Indian Heritage/Culture
        • 2
          Kim Jong Il Nov 14, 08
          I'm 18 and I bought my 360, PS3, Wii, HDTV, DS and iPod Touch (360 when I was 16, the rest when I was 17) and with money I earned.

          I can understand getting a PS3 for a birthday or for Christmas (my parent's got me a laptop for my 17th) but getting an alloance at 20-something is just lol.
        • 0
          Final Blade Nov 14, 08
          Kim, they pay me for helping them around the house. Whether its the trash, outside the house with fixing stuff. Or something, they usually pay me. But that pales in comparison to the money I got for Birthday's and Christmas. Although I already had some money before I started saving. But still, those little amount I got from my parents contributed to me buying a 60GB version.
        • 0
          Kim Jong Il Nov 14, 08
          You get paid to do stuff around the house..? Wow.
        • 0
          Krunal Nov 15, 08
          Allowance? I've never gotten an allowance in my life. I just ask my parents for something and they buy it for me. Hell that's what'll happen till I get a job next year. I buy games myself now, since I worked last year and earned a bit of money, but majority of things I get bought, but even so, if I wanted another console, it'd have to come from me rather than my parents.

          And we don't celebrate Christmas or any other "Present Giving" holidays apart from birthdays, at which point I always just opt for money... so it's not like I'm going to get something like that for christmas...
    • 2
      Krunal Nov 13, 08
      I agree with you wholeheartedly. I bought the PS3 at launch, and I paid a hell of a lot for it (£380 to be exact), but for me it was worth it because I managed to get a whole lot of game time out of it in the months before the price drop AND I also got a PS3 with Near-enough full backwards compatibility.

      Worth every penny of it at launch.
      • 0
        HisServant77 Nov 14, 08
        Haha, y'all are lucky for getting money from parents like that! I never did get that

        But yeah I bought my PS3 also at launch, and it with one game and an extra controller, cost me $800 I wanted a launch unit so badly because I knew that it'd be the best in some areas since as time goes by, they aim to make the cost of it cheaper by changing certain things . . . the Launch 60gig was DEFINITELY worth the buy!
        • 0
          Krunal Nov 15, 08
          Well for the PS3 I had to buy it myself. Fortunately I was working at argos, and managed to pay for it myself, and with a 10% staff discount. My £1000 Laptop on the other hand (both of them) were paid for by my parents...
  • 3
    RabidChinaGirl Nov 13, 08
    I honestly think articles/arguments like this one are totally invalid. People obviously have different tastes, like whether you want to invest in peripherals or how much gaming you're actually going to be doing on your console.

    People who are interested in ______ platform need to do their own math based on their own preferences.
    • 1
      Gamesta100 Nov 14, 08
      Which is EXACTLY what I did.

      There's no point in say, getting a smaller tattoo that I don't like because it's cheaper than the bigger one I do like.
  • 0
    HawkMan Nov 13, 08
    agreed rabid. It relaly depends on your gaming habits, but I don't need a ps3 taht bad enough to blow all that money on it. I rather wait it out.
  • 1
    Gamesta100 Nov 14, 08
    If you find that to be complaining, then I feel sorry for you.
    Complaining and stating a point/opinion are completely different things.My OPINION is that more than $300 for a console in which I will rarely buy games for is a waste of money.I spend more money on DS games than I would 360 games.The only series I'm even interested in on the 360 is GOW and Dead Rising.Any other series I'm interested in I can buy on the PS3.

    Besides, before I heard about the failure rate of the 360, I was going to buy one.Now it's not old the failure rate that keeps me from buying one, it's the reason I mentioned above.

    I was gonna buy a 360 when I heard that the 360 has just been (about 2 days ago) lowered to $300.But then I found out that was only the arcade version

    Next to no BC.You need to learn what a 60GB PS3 does.I can play nearly every PS1 and 2 game I own and I own over 200.

    Also I refuse to pay to play online.I pay enough on games, I don't want to spend extra each year just so that I can play online.Now THAT is me complaining.


    I'm very happy with the online service I get for free.

    Also I guess you are a fanboy then.Seeing as you don't want to buy a PS3 for the same reason I don't want to buy a 360 yet.

    EDIT Now that I think of it, I have a question about the arcade version.

    Would it be good enough for someone who would like to buy some things from XBL but not pay for a LIVE subscription?

    Because like I said, I do not want to pay any more than $300 for a 360 and that's how much the arcade version costs.

    Also pertaining to the 360 in general, can I just get XBL for say a month or two? Because I have a good friend on PSN that has a 360 and would like to be able to play some games online co-op with him but don't want to pay for whole years subscription.
    • 2
      RabidChinaGirl Nov 14, 08
      quote
      Also pertaining to the 360 in general, can I just get XBL for say a month or two? Because I have a good friend on PSN that has a 360 and would like to be able to play some games online co-op with him but don't want to pay for whole years subscription.
      Yeah you can. Just buy the subscription cards from any retail that sells games.
    • 1
      HawkMan Nov 14, 08
      Now you're just being a dumbass. You bought a 600 console maybe 500 if you waited for a price drop, then you come around about not being able to spend 300 on a console?! thats like Bill gates Buyinga 50 million dollar mansion but refus to pay 200 for a really nice dinner.

      you just threw all reasoning out the window, nice to see fanboys continue having one brain cell left. If you bought the PS3 for blu ray and its exclusives fine, but don't bitch about another console's price if you're able to afford a PS3.
      • 2
        Gamesta100 Nov 14, 08
        You call me a fanboy but you can't handle the fact that I don't see the 360 as worth the price.


        I bought the PS3 at launch because:

        1. It had Blu-Ray
        2. I KNEW it would have the games I would want.Not to mention Games like Tekken, that at the time very little people would have thought there was even a tiny chance that it would also go to the 360.Tekken is probably my 2nd favourite series behind MGS.
        3. Because of all the multimedia capabilities
        4. Because of free online.
        5. I liked the idea of recharging the wireless controls with a cord thus being able to use it while gaming
        6. Because I could play my PS1 and PS2 games on it.
        7. Because I could buy PS1 games from the store.
        8. The PS control is my favourite control of all time.
        9. Because I liked the idea of the SIXAXIS to control some aspect of games.
        10. It has a HDD.Which I thought was pretty stupid being dropped for the 360 when the XBOX one had one.

        Now for why I WOULD buy a 360

        1 GOW
        2 Dead Rising
        3 XBLA
        4 Games don't need installs

        NOW you tell me if I'm a fanboy for seeing the PS3 worth it's launch price and the 360 NOT worth any more than $300.


        HALF the reason I don't want to spend more than $300 on a 360 is BECAUSE I already own a PS3.

        Had the 360 had the exclusives I wanted, I would have bought that and thought that the PS3 wouldn't be worth it's price and I would only own a 360.
        • 2
          RabidChinaGirl Nov 14, 08
          quote
          5. I liked the idea of recharging the wireless controls with a cord thus being able to use it while gaming
          Just fyi, the 360 has that as well. I got one as reimbursement from a GameStop when they didn't have any NEW wireless controllers. Pretty great to have.
        • 0
          Slumpy monkey Nov 14, 08
          Yeh, It also has a HDD. But I understand what your saying.

          Buy it for what you think is best, not pussy foot around price etc.

          Unless its majorly expensive.
  • 1
    Gamesta100 Nov 14, 08
    Well at that time I didn't know that.So that's why it's on the list.
  • 1
    Xeros the Slayer Nov 14, 08
    Reasons 2 and 6-10 are all opinions, so while they may work for you, they are not universal reasons to get a console.

    The price of the 360, for me anyway, was more of a perk in getting the console rather than a reason in itself. People should just let the whole console fight thing die, I'd rather see the companies behind these things fight like the fans do, personally.
    • 0
      Final Blade Nov 14, 08
      Actually they should be. Cause those reasons are why many are complaining about how limited the current PS3's are in comparison to 60GB launch system.
    • 1
      Gamesta100 Nov 14, 08
      That's my whole point.

      They are the reasons IN MY OPINION the PS3 was worth the launch price.

      Just like it's MY OPINION the 360 isn't worth more than $300.Or it's someone elses opinion that the PS3 isn't worth it.

      Neither they, or me are wrong/stupid for having certain reasons as to why we like a given console.

      I've heard quite a few people say, "I don't want Blu-Ray", or "I want a console that has good games, not a bunch of useless multimedia functions" etc.

      Are they complaining? No, they are stating reasons THEY don't think the PS3 is worth it's price.
  • 0
    Red 9 Nov 14, 08
    I think this article is not worth being on here. And because I've moderated myself to not say that because of previous disagreements, that means a lot.
    • 0
      KneeNAR Nov 15, 08
      This article is rather pointless :\
  • 0
    Linkerd101 Nov 15, 08
    It is pretty pointless. Just a bunch of PS and MS fanboys ranting..
    • 2
      Gamesta100 Nov 15, 08
      I'm no fanboy.I have legitimate reasons as to why I don't think the 360 is worth it.

      Fanboys abuse others and I didn't abuse anyone.Fanboys hate a console for no reason.Fanboys sprout nonsense garbag and think they are talking fact.Fanboys think a company can do no wrong in regards to their console.I was rather disappointed in the PS3 for so long because of it's lack of exclusives.

      Just because I don't think the 360 is worth the price, doesn't mean I hate the console.

      If I was a fanboy, I would hate things like FFXIII and Tekken 6 being multiplatform.Tekken is probably my 2nd favourite series and the only thing I hate is that we have to wait for a little less than a year to get a hold of it.

      I get paid less than half the average Australians wage which also part of the reason I want the 360 to be cheaper.If I got paid double what I do, I would GLADLY go out and buy a 360.
  • 0
    Linkerd101 Nov 17, 08
    Now that you explained your self, i feel much better.
    I like to call my self a nintemdo fanboy but I play my 360 ALOT.
    my 60gig PS3's just gathering dust, really. I havent played it since I got LBP.
    I dont like it that much, its still fun though. I prefer animal crossing city folk, Melee Mario Kart Wii or Brawl. Oh, i forgot Halo 3, Soul Calibur IV and Banjo Kazooie N&B
    • 1
      Gamesta100 Nov 17, 08
      Well there's two different types of fanboy depending on who you talk to.When I think fanboy, I think a person who treats a console like it's god and feels the need to bash people for liking another console.

      But I guess you could call me a Sony fanboy in the fact that I prefer Sony consoles.

      During the NES and SNES days, I was all about those consoles.Then it shifted to Sony after I purchased a PS1.

      This Gen it's Sony for console and Nintendo for handheld.I own a a PS3 but not a Wii.I also own a PSP and DS but much prefer the DS over the PSP.

      A console choice should be about the games.Which is why I am yet to own a Wii or 360.They just don't have enough games that interest me that aren't also on the PS3.
  • 1
    Linkerd101 Nov 18, 08
    Yeah, your right Gamesta. But i prefer Nintendo Wii and DS more than both. I still like 360, thoguh.

    I hate to say it, but I think Sony may as well go out of the gaming market. They could make much more multimedia success..
    Theyre not doing too well financially...
    • 0
      Final Blade Nov 18, 08
      That's not going to happen. They're already making PS4 and already confirmed a PS5 awhile ago so they're going to stay in the business for awhile.

      Oh and guess what? Everyone isn't doing well financially it isn't just Sony, I don't see what bringing that up has anything to do with this.
      • 0
        Red 9 Nov 19, 08
        Actually, Linkerd, Sony did exceptionally well this year. They closed some significant sales gaps, and albeit the last 2 months, were outselling the 360 almost all year. Not only that, but delivered some great games. They've got some big titles just around the corner, and developers are quickly getting a grasp of PS3 hardware. I think on the whole, Sony did marvellously in comparison to last year.

        And if you were ever paying attention, every stock market on Earth is suffering. Sony actually lost significantly less market value than others did. For example, Circuit City applied for bankruptcy protection. Circuit City!

        Try not to omit the big details, mmkay?
        • 0
          Linkerd101 Nov 21, 08
          Yeah, for the PS3 sony did god.
      • 0
        Linkerd101 Nov 21, 08
        Final Blade, PS4 PS5 especially may as well not be confirmed.
        Nintendo announced Nintendo Generation, that never ever happened.

        Dont count on it too much. We'll just have to wait and see.
        But out of all sony consoles, PS2 is my favorite. Thier Library was DA BOMM
        • 0
          Final Blade Nov 21, 08
          How can it not be confirmed when Sony stated themselves it was confirmed?

          Sony isn't going anywhere. I seriously have no idea what you're talking about, but its very misinformed.

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