OXCGN writer Alex Baldwin takes apart the Sony PS3 titles to see what makes it tick and likes what he see and experiences.

He believe it raises the bar in the FPS genre, irrespective of platform. Slip over to the site and read a non-biased review from an Xbox site.

Let me start off by saying this review is almost a curse. Over the past few weeks as the reviews of Killzone 2 flooded the internet, sites were loved or loathed based on the number at the end of their article and accusations of ‘fanboism’ were thrown thick and fast.

Unfortunately this is the fate of many major exclusive releases for the 360 or PS3. Despite not actually having played the full game internet trolls declared sites that awarded an 8/10 or lower for Killzone 2 flatout wrong or biased towards the Xbox 360.

Let me make one thing clear before we dive into the nitty gritty of picking apart Killzone 2 - this is my truthful opinion of the game uncoloured by hype or mythical money handouts from Microsoft or Sony. Yes this site focuses on the Xbox 360, but here we are all true gamers and true gamers can appreciate a great game no matter what format is graces.
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  • 1
    Hunskelper Feb 27, 09
    After a *bleep*tonne of technical problems, I finally managed to play the first level last night...

    A resounding meh from me. It's good, definitely above average, but not on the level of COD4, The Orange Box or Bioshock.

    Fingers crossed it get's better from the second level on because right now it's really a 8.5 game for me.
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    nanobyte Feb 27, 09
    I got the opposite impression about the aiming from the demo. I usually turn the sensitivity up (to match the difficulty) but to start playing on the default setting I would be spraying lead everywhere!
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    joshthegreat Feb 27, 09
    The first level isn't as good as it gets by any means. Keep playing.
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      Hunskelper Feb 27, 09
      I'm 3 levels in now and still rate it as an 8.5/10
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        Red 9 Feb 27, 09
        As if you even needed to tell us twice...
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          Hunskelper Feb 27, 09
          I didn't.

          If you look very closely you'll see that in my first post you'll see I don't rate it higher than a 8.5/10 after the first level. In my second post I'm saying I'm no more impressed after 3 levels than I was after the first one.



          I've got a little niggling thought at the back of my head that says you wouldn't be upset if I was complaining about Halo or another 360 exclusive.
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          Red 9 Feb 27, 09
          Well ignore that feeling. Not everyone has to be a fanboy, you know.
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          Hunskelper Feb 27, 09
          I'm fully aware that not everyone's a fanboy. I still think you are one though.

          A passive aggressive fanboy, which are just as, if not more, annoying than the other kind of fanboy.
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          Killosity Feb 27, 09
          quote Red 9
          As if you even needed to tell us twice...
          Well I encourage his opinion. Not buying it until I feel certain that its worth my money.
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          Red 9 Feb 27, 09
          quote
          I'm fully aware that not everyone's a fanboy. I still think you are one though.

          A passive aggressive fanboy, which are just as, if not more, annoying than the other kind of fanboy.
          Thanks...not...
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          Hunskelper Feb 28, 09
          @ killosity: I don't know where you're from Killosity, so I don't know how much you'd have to shell out to buy the game, but it's worth the £30 I paid for it.

          Only just though.

          @ Red_9: Mhmm.
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    kik36 Feb 27, 09
    Great review, I thought it was very unbiased and found it interesting to be posted on an XBOX site. Thank you for posting it.
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    XboxOZ360 Feb 28, 09
    I have to say re the

    :A resounding meh from me. It's good, definitely above average, but not on the level of COD4, The Orange Box or Bioshock.

    Fingers crossed it get's better from the second level on because right now it's really a 8.5 game for me."

    Not having a go at you per-se mate, my concern is with the overall presumption that 8.5/10 is a bad or lousy score . . . 8.5/10 is an Excellent score, and in fact, I believe the following needs to be taken back up, as it once was and really should be.:

    As an example:

    Our highest rating ever is 9.8/10 as we believe there’s very few games that warrant or deserve a full 10/10 - ever - basically never.

    This is the problem with many gamers these day, especially the two current newer generations coming in since 2005. They see rating at 8 or 8.5 as “low” or unacceptable, when in fact, out of /10, that’s an amazing score.

    Games need to fall back the the ‘normal ratings’ where:-

    • 2- 3/10 Were Lower level and basically "terrible" games and a score like this is given to games that should never have been made, but were and your really should do yourself a favour and not waste your money on them.

    • 3-5/10 Is an “Heeehhhh - it’s okayish”, but buy it at you own risk if you really want to, but don’t expect much out of it when you do play it, bargain bin 2 day turn-around type of game

    • 5 - 6/10 Is your “Average” and worth getting if you’re simply after some fluff and casual fun, you probably won't keep it unless something in it tweaks your interest . . .

    • 6-7.5 Is basically a "Great" game, well worth grabbing and playing and one that will deliver a solid amount of gameplay. Probably worth adding to a collection, but definitely worth investigating with the possibility of being a keeper.

    • 8 - 8.5/10 These are games that are classified as "Excellent", and are a definite cut above the rest. Well worth shelling out the readies on as keepers for anyones’ collection.

    • 9 - 9.8/10 Are scores for those games that "Simply Excel" in so many areas in and are the games that would make it into any GOTY awards on any sites listing.

    You only have to look through well researched and respected magazines such as EDGE to see that games scoring 7 etc are common and given to games that are great, not seen as bad or worthless, and in fact a cut above the rest. However, the same games on some sites are wrongly labeled at 9 and above, simply to win over the reader. Whereas 7/10 or 7.5/10 is still a damn fine game worth having, and 8.5 is a definite cut above the rest and well worth owning.

    In effect, gamers of today are making a rod for their on back, and will suffer for it by game developers culling off games that really need to be made if innovation and change is to be had.

    If you knew some of the games that both THQ and Eidos and Atari have trashed you’d be crying in your hands right now, as they were “excellent” games, but focus studies showed they would ONLY get a 8.8/10 . . now that is down right scary to think that we miss out on games that used be classified as brilliant, all because the “current perception” of ratings is over inflated.
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      Hunskelper Feb 28, 09
      Either I've misread what you're trying to say, but to me it sounds like you're saying that I don't understand my own score? lol.
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        XboxOZ360 Feb 28, 09
        What I am saying is clear, if you and others think KZ 2 is mearly a Mehhh style game, and with that feeling of thought, rank it a 8.5, then what would you rank a game that was terrible . . 7 or even an 8 . .?

        The question is, how do YOU define the 8.5 you give, remembering that you don't review games for a profession, but on your experience.

        SO explain what a 8.5 means, and then others willknow . saying it's "meeehhh just 8.5 sounds like a put down, yet 8.5 in a proper reviewers book is an 'excellent' game.

        It's just a serious Q?, nothing more or any accusation.
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          Hunskelper Feb 28, 09
          I'm not saying it's a bad game it's just... nowhere near as good as has been made out. At £30, it's definitely worth a buy

          Considering the hype it's a let down, but just because a game is a let down doesn't mean it's a poor game. I thought MGS4 and Halo 3 were overrated and overhyped, they weren't bad games though.
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    kik36 Feb 28, 09
    I agree with you OZ, gamers need to get over their stuck up attitude when it comes to scores. There are plenty of 9+ games that I don't enjoy and plenty of 6-7's that I do. The truth is you never really know until you try, and people need to learn to broaden their horizons.
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      XboxOZ360 Feb 28, 09
      Well I look at it this way, if gamers have become used to the "average Mehhh game being 8 or 8.5 etc, then how the heck are any developers (especially the ones without huge ongoing financial backing, going t even survive, let alone produce more innovative games.

      Look at Mirro's Edge.

      Perhaps one of THE best First Person Perspective innovations to come out in the last few years. Yet it got a panning because it's score were not above 7 or even 8 in some cases.

      Yet the gamers were/are clammering for "innovation" - "different game models" - "better environments" - "better physics" . .and what did Dice provide, all those and more. Mirror's Edge is part of a Trillogy, and Dice are hard at work on the following iteration, but at what expense to the game.

      Will they change it and add guns into a game that is NOT meant to have guns, simply because gamers these days WANT big Fn guns otherwise it's Not A Game . . ?
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        Hunskelper Mar 1, 09
        Yup, you have totally misunderstood my comment. I didn't say it was an average game, I said it was definitely above average.

        For the record I actually enjoyed Mirrors Edge. I gave it a 8.8/10 in the Unofficial Hunskelper Magazine.
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      XboxOZ360 Mar 1, 09
      quote kik36
      I agree with you OZ, gamers need to get over their stuck up attitude when it comes to scores. There are plenty of 9+ games that I don't enjoy and plenty of 6-7's that I do. The truth is you never really know until you try, and people need to learn to broaden their horizons.
      What is a shame though, is that many of the newer generations won't even look at, let alone play any games that rate 8-8.5 or below. Thus basically cutting themselves off to a HUGE percentage of games that are great games.

      They want others to make their purchasing choices for them, and don;t seem to be willing to give a new game, or many games for that matter, a fiar and decent chance.

      Games like Mirror's Edge etc take some time to get used to, but once you have, the game can be extremely fluid and fast. Shooters like Killzone 2 will take some time to master the aiming and weapons. But many will simply diss it based on a few moment or minutes of playtime.

      It's like someone that is a master at skying being put on a Snow board and be expected to be master of that disipline straight off the bat. It's impossible, but given time, the person understands the nuances of the board and becomes familiar with them. Same goes for cars, sports and anything requiring physical dexterity really.

      The exact same applies for games and their control systems. Your brain simply wants to know the new references and it will master them IF you give it TIME and effort.
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    XboxOZ360 Mar 1, 09
    Okay . . . no probs . . I suppose what can throw many is the inclusion of Mehhh . . which "usually" is associated with things of fair to middling quality. And, I wasn't aiming it entirely at you mate, just the overall misconception of the ranking system of late. Which has to be honest, become a laughing matter with many game jurnos worth their salt.

    I have a hard time understanding many gamers not seeing innovation in games as progress. So many want and ask for it, but in the very next breath, they condemn any developer that dares makes moves to include innovation in their new IPs.

    I certainly would not want to be a developer in these times, let along a publisher.

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