I have. The point I'm trying to make is, film-wise, seeing a horrid film adaption of a game is just as bad as seeing a really, really horrid film adaption, since either way you're going to be disappointed (but at least in the really, really horrid ones you get a laugh ).

So shit film-maker or REALLY shit film-maker, it makes no difference, since the films going to brutalize the franchise either way.

People will always have problems with an adaption of any sort because they're most familiar with the original medium. It's a psychological thing. Just take it with a grain of salt and see it for its face value rather than what it originally was based off of and you'll be fine.

If you've never read the graphic novel for 'The Watchmen' you probably thought the movie was OK/Good but if you did read the book you'd more than likely find things to nit pick about. I know I did

On the contrary, it seems most people who did read Watchmen thought the movie was spectacular to decent, as they had a better understanding of the entire story and recognized scenes taken right out of the comic.

Those who did not have a background knowledge of the comic expected another shallow, action-packed super hero flick, but were sorely surprised by what the movie had to offer. They may not have known enough to nit pick -- doesn't mean they liked it either.

Not saying all Watchmen fans liked the movie, just presenting an alternative trend in viewer response I've encountered.

tekmo, that's just not true. I loved both new Batman's, Ironman and The Incredible Hulk (the first one, however, was trash), to name the recent ones, and I grew up on them. The reason I don't like this news is because the only other films this guy has to his name, are shit ones. If they said this was going to be written by a good writer, produced by a good producer (not the guy who produced The Scorpion King =\) and directed by a good director, I would be ecstatic. But it's not. All I've heard, name-wise, is Hollywood trash, so what am I supposed to think? That they'll pull a miracle and make the film great?

Oh, and Watchmen is a terrible example for that point. People who didn't read the GN expected an action-packed superhero film, like RCG said, whereas people who read the novel knew it's a lot deeper then that and more story orientated.

I think my example with the Watchmen was perfectly fine. I didn't say people will always hate the adapations, I merely stated that they would have problems with it. Any problem, a single problem, something they would have liked to have seen something different that would have reflected the original medium, etc.

Since you seem to think my example was terrible I'll point out why it's not, because I thought it would have been rather obvious. My example was to help illustrate why someone would have issues with an adaption of something based off of an original piece of work because there's more than likely something that might just not have sat right with you that you liked better from the original medium. Warning Spoilers beyond this point: In the Watchmen graphic novel, you could say one of the focal characters throughout the story was Rorschach. In the book it gave a lot of depth and insight into the characters past, in the movie it did not. The ending in the book used an alien presence to scare humanity, in the movie there was no "alien" the blame was entirely put on Dr. Manhattan, that he was the one who made the attack. You're contradicting yourself. You say that what I said is just not true and no more than 20 words later you say "the first one, however, was trash". What??? :S

Justin Marks has 4 movies under his belt in terms of writing. There are no screenshots or video clips yet and you're all yelling "It's going to suck, I'm so disappointed". Geeze, some people :\

The first, referring to the first Hulk film. The shit one made near 2002. That was trash. Not because it was a bad adaptation, but because it was just a bad film, period.

I'm not talking about little things being different. Like I said, The Joker in The Dark Knight was WAY too intense and not clowny enough for my liking, but I still enjoyed him immensely. Blonsky in The Incredible Hulk could have been handled in a much better way IMO. I still enjoyed the film, and him, a lot. Yeah, they made changes in The Watchmen film, but as a fan of the graphic novel I've found I've loved it a lot more then ther average film-goer who has voiced their opinion. Who the hell cares if there are niggling little differences, it's about the purpose of the film; people who don't know about it think it's another Superhero cliché film and are disappointed, because it's not. People who know it expect it to be what it was, because that's what it actually was. I'm not talking about niggling little differences like that, at all, because they don't matter. I'm talking about what the film is, as a WHOLE. In it's ENTIRITY. What the story and characters are meant to represent. The fact it isn't just people in tights jumping around and has depth. The reason the average movie-goer doesn't like it.

And as I've said below; he has four films under his belt, and they were shit. The producer announced to be doing it, is shit. All we know about this film is that the people who are making it have, so far, made only shit.

What the hell do you expect me to do? Say 'I have high hopes even though the people in charge of it are terrible!'? If this was announced to be being made by good people, I'd be ecstatic, but it's not, so of course I'm going to be annoyed about it. How is that so hard to understand?

It would be hard for people to even become emotionally attached to the characters. I know there is a few exceptions but the fact is that the game ran on being emotionaly attached to the characters and it would do a better job of that with live action.

Plus, I can't help but seeing it looking like a pixar movie, thats just me.

First off, what I'm about to say is a spoiler. ANYONE WHO HAS YET TO PROGRESS FAR IN THE GAME, SKIP THIS POST NOW!

Now, I did notice that the farther you got through the game, Wander's skin got darker and dirtier, from fighting the colossi and being further possessed by the darkness. The fact that he'll obviously have cleaner skin and possibly a more upbeat attitude in his village (depending on how it's written) will show that it is indeed a flashback. As for dialogue, maybe the movie writers could use that opportunity to explain a bit more about the horned race of people, which of course led to Wander's fate at the very end of the game (and its build up to Ico).

Poor Cajun accent, in the few times it's there (actor's fault, but the director should have picked up on it). He acts like too much of a bitch (Wolverine knocks him on his ass without so much as flinching). Plus, in the few action sequences he is in, he's just a poor excuse for special effects.

It would be like if they made Sephiroth fall over and cry 'cause he grazed his knee in Advent Children =\

Like I said above, it's not about the film being completely true to the game to a T. It's about the only people who are tied to this film so far have movie profiles that read as a what's what of Hollywood sewage.

The Dark Knight. The Joker was eff all like I would have wanted him to be. Way too serious (ironically). I still enjoyed the film, and him, immensely. This could be anything; SotC, Green Lantern, Finding Nemo 2, My Name is Earl: The Movie. I'd still be annoyed because of who is doing it, not because it's being done.

I missed where you said that but okay I believe you did. I agree with you as well that most game movies end up with shitty cast/production teams as well. I put that down to the defeatist attitude of most gamers though. As much as most gamers will deny it they tend to expect game to movie adaptations to be shit. Because of this pre-production negativity the movie is already on the back foot as the producers don't want to front that much money into an endeavour they think will more than likely fail. Gamers need to get positive for once and stand behind game to movie adaptations. Maybe then once interest is coming from this side of the fence it will be reciprocated.

When I said 'like I said above', I was referring to the back and forth with Tekmo, not the previous comment down here.

And I completely disagree. The films aren't made for gamers, people just use the storyline and make it for film-goers. Yeah, gamers are worried about this, but like you said the guys at Movie Forums are very happy, and THEY are who this film is for, so gamers opinions on the announcement doesn't mean much to the producers, since they hear the jingle in the wallets of everyone else who hasn't played the game but has heard of it and are intrigued.

The Dark Knight wasn't made for comic book fans, it was made for film fans. Most script writers turn games into films because they can't come up with unique storylines (whereas with comic books and the like it's because they know they can make a mint off of the popularity). And the fact the guy writing it can't come up with anything unique story-wise (or good) and the producers are most likely just trying to make a fast buck (and are shit) is why this movie is doomed to be horrid.

You can't pile crap on top of crap and expect it to turn into gold. That's just silly.