Final Fantasy XIII producer, Yoshinori Kitase, has recently revealed that he does not consider the game to be a JRPG (Japanese RPG), because "there's a trend these days to strictly categorize games as western RPGs or Japanese RPGs, but Final Fantasy is something that we don't try to categorize as either/or."

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Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase has said that he doesn't view his game as a J-RPG (Japanese RPG).

But Kitase has reasons for his view. "There's a trend these days to strictly categorize games as western RPGs or Japanese RPGs, but Final Fantasy is something that we don't try to categorize as either/or."
"For us, the game straddles genre," he added.
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  • 5
    Darknet May 7, 09
    It's a JRPG. They try and think they are above and beyond categories and genres. But they aren't.
    • 2
      chautemoc May 7, 09
      Or maybe it's just you .
      • 2
        Moonrise May 7, 09
        Nope, they're definitely not above those categorizations.
    • 0
      BANDITO ATTACK May 7, 09
      werd^

      its japanese. its an 'rpg'. it's not really an actual rpg. it's a jrpg.
  • 1
    Zero and X May 7, 09
    Saying Final Fantasy isn't a JRPG is like saying The Beatles isn't classic rock.
    • 1
      iLLmatic May 7, 09
      The Beatles isn't classic rock. waddayagunnadoaboutit
  • 3
    Flippy May 7, 09
    Who cares? Final Fantasy is still a great game.

    Unless they screw it up. >_>
    • 2
      Duality_18 May 7, 09
      Kinda like they did 12? See what I did there?
  • 1
    Wolverine527 May 7, 09
    quote Zero and X
    Saying Final Fantasy isn't a JRPG is like saying The Beatles isn't classic rock.

    Saying final fantasy isn't a JRPG is like saying Mario isn't nintendo's mascot.
  • 2
    CAROUSELAMBRATIMES2 May 7, 09
    People are misunderstanding this a bit here; allow me to explain, no one necessarily said Final Fantasy isnt a JRPG; as in the final fantasy franchise, I through XII. They said Final Fantasy XIII, as in this edition of Final Fantasy, this particular game, is moving away from the labelling of JRPG. They wanna distance some of the negative stereotypes of the JRPG genre of games, i.e. they're for american losers with no friends. They said it not me. So they're simply saying, this is Final Fantasy, this is a game, old fans and newcomers alike, play it, if you enjoy it great. And that's all you can do, wait till it's out, play it and then decide for yourself if they're right to distance it from the "JRPG label"; or if it's simply a marketing ploy, or last struggle.

    If you ask me though, if they're gonna hold on to the name of Final fantasy, the legacy of it, then they've gotta keep the theme and feel the same. If they're making something very very different to Final Fantasy as we know it, then it's only "final fantasy" in name, and not in gameplay or spirit. So they may as well start a new franchise instead of defiling whats there. But we'll see anyway man, maybe this is just their way of saying they're gonna get Final Fantasy back on track.
    • 1
      Fatal Error May 7, 09
      Seems like they quite clearly said "Final Fantasy" straddles the genres...which it really doesn't.
      • 1
        CAROUSELAMBRATIMES3 May 9, 09
        I'll tell you how I read it.


        quote
        Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase has said that he doesn't view his game as a J-RPG (Japanese RPG).
        THIS game, HIS game, XIII, he doesnt wanna categorize as a JRPG.




        Then beyond that, he's talking about genres and categorys in general, not specifically JRPG.


        quote
        "There's a trend these days to strictly categorize games as western RPGs or Japanese RPGs, but Final Fantasy is something that we don't try to categorize as either/or."
        As in, they try not to categorize the games and franchise too much either way; on an individual basis, so as not to limit the market or number of people playing i.e. its a "shooter/rpg", or its set in an "industrial/fantasy" setting. That sort of thing. And in specific, this edition, XIII, they're trying not to categorize as western rpg or Jrpg, in terms of gameplay.

        quote
        "For us, the game straddles genre," he added.
        As in, THIS game (XIII) straddles genres.

        So he's not saying, Final Fantasy as a franchise hasnt BEEN Jrpgs. He's saying, this one, he doesnt wanna label it as that. I dunno if it is or not, I havent played it.

        Thats how I understood it.
        • 0
          Moonrise May 9, 09
          He clearly says "Final Fantasy is something we don't try to categorize as one or the other". He's talking about the franchise, and this game as well. Both would be wrong on his part. Marketing has nothing to do with it, because it's obvious that they don't want to market the game as a JRPG but that doesn't change the fact it is a JRPG.
        • 1
          CAROUSELAMBRATIMES3 May 9, 09
          quote
          He clearly says "Final Fantasy is something we don't try to categorize as one or the other". He's talking about the franchise, and this game as well. Both would be wrong on his part. Marketing has nothing to do with it, because it's obvious that they don't want to market the game as a JRPG but that doesn't change the fact it is a JRPG.
          Marketing has everything to do with it man, for the reason you said there; regardless of whether it is or is not a JRPG, they dont wanna limit it by marketing it as one, because there's negative stigma attached to it.

          The fact is man, he doesnt "clearly" say anything, other than EXACTLY what hes said up there, there's no clear about it beyond that, lets not put words in their mouth; it doesnt particularly matter either way; all they're doing is trying to get people who wouldnt normally be interested in the game, interested.
  • 1
    Bale Fire May 7, 09
    All this is is another attempt to attract the Western audience, which they are heavily banking on since they moved the game to the 360. This game is no different from any of the others, its a JRPG and that's that.
    • 0
      Fallen Royalty May 8, 09
      How can you be so definite? You've never even played it, so how would you know?
      • 2
        dwg14390 May 8, 09
        I'm assuming you mean how would he know if it's a JRPG??

        Anyways Sqeenix, thats saying Halo isn't a FPS, it's above that.

        Or Super Smash Bros. Isn't a "fighting" game, it too is above the categorizations.

        Stop trying to hype the game and give us MOAR TRAILERS!!!
        Oh and cool looking bundle. Gotta have a bundle these days.
  • 1
    Tiger of Wu May 8, 09
    An RPG, created by a Japanese company consisting of Japanese workers primarily for a Japanese audience with a lot of elements from other Japanese-RPGs...

    It's a JRPG. Fact.

    Get over yourselves and stop thinking that's such a bad thing; the game is still going to rape sales and be loved and if that isn't enough then feel free to cut yourself over it.
  • 0
    Onvacation May 8, 09
    Extreme hair + Extreme clothes + large weapons = JRPG
    • 0
      Ameer May 8, 09
      You forgot the effeminate men.
      • 0
        Zero and X May 8, 09
        FF13 has no effeminate men from what I seen.
        • 0
          Onvacation May 8, 09
          Knowing FF, one is bound to show up at one point or another =D
        • 0
          Zero and X May 8, 09
          Yeah that's true. Final Fantasy XIII versus already fit the bill however, lol.
  • 4
    RabidChinaGirl May 8, 09
    He's just saying he doesn't like defining games and placing expectations on the word "J-RPG," not that it isn't Japanese. Still, if they really were making such a huge departure, I don't know why they wouldn't just make a new game entirely, rather than stick with the "Final Fantasy" title, then trying to convince everyone it's something new.
    • 2
      chautemoc May 8, 09
      They want their JRPG and to eat it too.
    • 1
      Tiger of Wu May 8, 09
      Yeah, we know that, we're (I am, at least) just saying having genres and categorizations is what happens to a game, and this game's genre is JRPG. They don't have to like it but they should know enough to not bitch about it, because no matter what they say it will still happen.
  • 2
    Shinobi_razor May 8, 09
    oh please. dont give me this bull about "FF13 is above all other RPG sub genres and you cant classify it blah blah". there is only JRPG and western RPGs at this point.

    either FF13 with be a JRPG (which it will) or a western RPG. there is no such thing as neither.
    • 0
      chautemoc May 8, 09
      There's also East Asian RPGs. Heaps of them, and they make millions. Ignorant.

      Anyway, you're missing the point. See a few comments above.
      • 2
        Shinobi_razor May 8, 09
        im not missing any point and im not ignorant, the point was the guy at Squeenix is just spouting *bleep*ing bullshit about this, it IS a JRPG. so i dont know who you think you are. leave me alone dumbass, you arent the king of the world.
        • 0
          Onvacation May 8, 09
          Of course you're missing the point, if this game is avoiding all the charactoristics of a typicial JRPG, then you can't really group into the same genre, unless you class it for location (which is not te focus)

          Oh and that was the best come back ever 'i'm not ignorant, leave me alone dumbass, you aren't the king of the world.'

          priceless xD
        • 0
          chautemoc May 8, 09
          What am I wearing this crown for then? Hmm..
        • 1
          Shinobi_razor May 8, 09
          when has a FF game ever avoided all the JRPG characteristics before? even FF12 with its new battle system still was a JRPG. if FF13 is not a JRPG, then its a western RPG. you can have elements of both but youll have to classify it as either one or the other.

          all this is is Squeenix trying to get more interest and more press for the game by saying it will be new and different than past FF's or even any of their past games. they obviously dont want it to tank hardcore like Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery just did.
        • 1
          Miss Razz May 9, 09
          quote
          if this game is avoiding all the charactoristics of a typicial JRPG, then you can't really group into the same genre
          How would an RPG that's being made in Japan avoid the characteristics of a JRPG? The main characteristics of a JRPG is that it's Japanese and an RPG... both of which FFXIII has.
        • 0
          Onvacation May 9, 09
          Gothic Girl, You're being stupidly semantic there. You KNOW people use the term to Describe the visuals, the Look and feel of the game and not the place it was made. e.i Oblivion would still be called a western RPG even if it was made in Japan.
        • 0
          Onvacation May 9, 09
          Uh yes it would, Because in every example i've ever seen, the word was used to define the style of the game.



          If you didn't know either of these games, or where they made. You'd still know which was the JRPG and which isn't just by knowing the (Mostly Negative) Stereotypical look of one - The Kind SE say they are 'trying' to avoid. I gather from the article that they want people to look at the game and not instantly think 'It's a JRPG'.
          You seem to be taking the term too literal then needed, Granted, JRPG can simply be used to say 'this game is a Role playing game made in Japan', but its not common from my experience.

          EDIT: Gothic Girl Seems to have deleted her reply, meh.
        • 1
          Miss Razz May 9, 09
          If Squeenix are judging genres based on the stereotypes or the look of a game, then they should probably start focusing on more important things, tbh.

          And if Oblivion were made in Japan, I wouldn't call it a Western RPG. That's just silly.

          Non-Western RPGs are defined by their region. JRPGs from Japan, KRPGs from Korea, and so on. Sure, they can have sub-genres (action, anime, etc). But FFXIII is still essentially a JRPG, regardless of whether Squeenix are straying from JRPG characteristics and/or what sub-genres it might have.
          I'm not taking the term too literally. Squeenix are being ambiguous about it.

          (though if that really is Squeenix's goal, then they're kinda failing. It's hard to look at FFXIII and not say it looks like a typical JRPG. )
        • 0
          Onvacation May 9, 09
          Yes,gg. I've agreed that it is indeed a JRPG by definition of where it was made, but you just seem to be missing my point completely so i'll stop =.
        • 0
          Miss Razz May 9, 09
          Fair enough. We're just going around in circles here. XD
  • 1
    phowell23 May 8, 09
    They take the time to give us this crap but cant give us some solid release dates? Find something better to do with your time SE.
  • 1
    Dramon Knight May 8, 09
    Wow they're in denial. Japanese + RPG = JRPG.

    But as long as it's good, I don't really care. They better not have messed this up with this "not JRPG" idea in mind. Or else.
  • 0
    xegaldis May 9, 09
    well, this is just pretty stupid.
  • 0
    neto_360 May 9, 09
    I just want to play the damn game already. >_
  • 0
    Supernouva Jun 4, 09
    I saw a black man in the trailer, so SE's tellin' the truth.
    • 0
      Zero and X Jun 4, 09
      FF7 had a black man, does that suddenly not make it a JRPG? I think not.
      • 1
        Tiger of Wu Jun 4, 09
        I believe he was making a joke

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