Moshe Kai Cavalin started college when he was 8. He has now graduated from East Los Angeles Community College this month with a degree in Liberal Studies. Pretty amazing, right?
Well, on the other hand, it's a slightly sad story. He won't legally be able to get a job until he is 15-16, and was also quoted as saying: "I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way".
Worry about helping humanity when you're older. But spend your childhood having fun, making friends and just being a kid.

Not on the agenda: playing video games.

"I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way," says the 11-year-old, who wants to use his knowledge to change the world.
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  • 1
    chautemoc Jun 6, 09
    As Sarah Silverman says, it's preventing a whole lot of AIDS.
    Kid obviously hasn't heard of games like Deliver the Net or Rendition: Guantanamo, nevermind all those video game charities, video game therapy, plots with morals and politics and such (you know, like in books and film), or the fact they're proven to improve mental ability.
    It makes me laugh for all this kid's "genius", he doesn't know what the *bleep* he's talking about here.
  • 4
    Jak66 Jun 6, 09
    Yeah, uh... This kinda points out that this kid is a pretty stupid genius.
  • 10
    RabidChinaGirl Jun 6, 09
    He's just an 11-year-old kid. Genius or not, why should anyone care what he thinks about video games?
    • 12
      Reenee Jun 6, 09
      Because he's acting pretentious.

      Oh, and lacking a childhood.

      He will die a virgin.
      • 1
        Tiger of Wu Jun 6, 09
        He won't die a virgin; chess club hoes give good.
        • 0
          Reenee Jun 7, 09
          Are there even girls in chess club in the first place?
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
          Does it matter; sex is sex
        • 1
          Reenee Jun 12, 09
          You have very low standards.
        • 0
          The Art of War Jun 13, 09
          That's what your father told me

          (Why the *bleep* was this one deleted? The others I can understand but give me a god-damn break and stop over-compensating Mr. Ava' man )
  • 0
    Killosity Jun 6, 09
    18 Year old New Zealander on Gamegrep this this guy is a tosser.
    Same substance.
    • 1
      RabidChinaGirl Jun 6, 09
      23-year-old GameGrep mod says Kiwis have sexy accents. That makes it a universal truth.
      • 0
        Storm Jun 6, 09
        I'd rather witness the sexy accents than hear this kid's take on games. Sigh, I feel that they may be a waste of time in the sense that...well I'm freaking bored and want entertainment.
      • 1
        Euphoric Jun 6, 09
        Kiwis? Sexy Accents? I have never in my entire life heard that before. Ever. Nor did I ever expect to hear it. I now don't expect to hear it ever again from this point forward.
  • 10
    Seeker X Jun 6, 09
    Everyone has an opinion. Though I am fully prepared to exercise my right and priviledge to not give a shit. Look at me as I move on.
  • 2
    Shuyu Jun 6, 09
    He's right. Games do not help anyone with anything. As such, I will stop wasting my money on video games and go back to cocaine, instead.
  • 1
    L_98 Jun 6, 09
    why so serious? he should get a childhood of fun. exitement, andd... a lot of guys to hang out with.
  • 9
    McClubbin Jun 6, 09
    WAIT. He graduates from COMMUNITY COLLEGE and develops an ego the size of the *bleep*ing sun to critique everybody else? A kid with down's syndrome could do that and at least he wouldn't turn out to be a conceited little prick. It's a shame he wasn't blessed with a bit of humility to go with that intelligence.

    "I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way." So are things like watching movies, going out for a walk, exercising, etc. Clearly they don't help humanity as a whole, but we do them for some reason, right?

    If this little brat keeps talking like this, I will consider him to be a failure (by his logic) if he ends up being anything less than the next Mother Teresa.
    • 3
      reaver11 Jun 6, 09
      Wow. Guess I don't need to put my 2 cense in, you just put a quarter in for me. Well said.

      "conceited little prick" HA! I love it!

      Who listens to an 8 year old anyway?
    • 0
      BANDITO ATTACK Jun 6, 09
      did you graduate from college, community or otherwise, when you were 8? didn't think so.
      • 7
        Tiger of Wu Jun 6, 09
        Do you think that doing such as that means you can talk down about things you barely know?

        If so, pity for you.
        • 0
          BANDITO ATTACK Jun 7, 09
          he wasn't talking down about them. it was a simple commentary, and his own opinion. nobody ever claimed him the authority on the usefulness of video games in modern society.
          i can imagine it, it's an interview with a child prodigy - who's pretty much just a 'normal kid'. they ask him ' so you play video games?'. he says 'no, theyre a waste of time'. its not like he came out ranting about it with a poorly-written article on yet another video game weblog about it just to piss all the silly gaymers off.

          he wasn't criticizing anybody, and he wasn't saying he's better than anybody. tho, being an 11 year-old college graduate, apparent genius, and multi-national martial arts champion - he's already far more accomplished than most of the people who are crying about his comment.
        • 2
          Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
          'nobody ever claimed him the authority on the usefulness of video games in modern society.'

          A lot of people have, judging from this comment section, including yourself.

          That's the point I'm getting at.

          Your comment said to me that doing such as that meant he has the right to talk down to people about it.
          quote
          'did you graduate from college, community or otherwise, when you were 8? didn't think so.'
          Not once in that comment to Magimaster did you say 'It was a passing comment so don't get your panties in a twist about it', instead you just further insinuate that he can talk about it with authority by saying what you did, even though you now claim he doesn't give a shit so it doesn't matter?!?!

          So you say 'Have you done everything he has done? No, then shut up you lesser creature! ' and now you say 'He doesn't care about it, so stop crying.' So which one is it? Is he the all-knowing genius whose opinion means so much more that Magimaster has no right to question it or is he just a very smart kid whose passing comment got blown out of proportion?
  • 0
    Dragoon* Jun 6, 09
    He says we should concentrate on "Just being kid". Surely being part of being a kid is playing video games.
    • 0
      Miss Razz Jun 6, 09
      Nah, I was the only who said that he should focus on just being a kid. That was just my little addition to the article. XP
  • 0
    ali3n Jun 6, 09
    Wait, so believing that games are a waste of time, which they are for the most part, immediately makes you a conceited asshole?
    • 4
      Miss Razz Jun 6, 09
      Entertainment isn't a waste of time
  • 1
    conel3 Jun 6, 09
    For a genius he's pretty stupid.
  • 1
    Euphoric Jun 6, 09
    Calling him stupid is pretty ridiculous. He is clearly not stupid. To say that that particular opinion is shortsighted and baseless would make more sense and look less like a child spitting the dummy after their favourite toy just got dissed in the sandpit.
  • 1
    redneonfish Jun 6, 09
    Perhaps he's been told to say it?
  • 3
    Play ISDF Jun 6, 09
    Don't you love how he doesn't mention the millions of other things a person can do that also fails to help humanity in any way, shape or form? I don't care if he is a genius or not and if games are a waste of time to him. He can go work endlessly and blow himself up trying to invent a new energy source for the world while I actually live my life and have fun.
    • 1
      ali3n Jun 6, 09
      This is going to sound crazy but try to stick with it here. It might, just might, have had something to do with the way the question was put across.
      • 2
        HisServant77 Jun 6, 09
        Good thought! Afterall, we've all seen how straightforward, honest, and totally unbiased the media are especially when asking just the right questions!
  • 0
    HisServant77 Jun 6, 09
    Notice that the kid says he "FEELS" they are a waste of time. He said that because it is HIS OPINION! He is not claiming it as fact because he knows there are some benefits to video games such as certain charities (though the charities themselves are what benefits, not the game). Also, gaming in moderate terms is like a recreational hobby or pasttime.

    All work and no play makes Johny begin to go insane or start to hate work so much that Johny no longer wants to do anything and becomes a lazy bum! I have personally learned that this year especially, with working and working and working some more in between sleeping and eating. I think I need to take a break and go get me inFAMOUS that I've been putting off.

    Games, as long as they are not put above more important things like LIFE and OTHERS, helps to give enjoyment.
  • 0
    Province Jun 6, 09
    17 Irish guy on gamegrep says he should be shot, because he isn't living or dead o-o

    Video Games are a nice anti-burnout medicine and an easy way to chillax when you're down...certain games excluded.
  • 1
    DragonPirateZolo Jun 6, 09
    This is sad tbh. Live your life kid. Make the most of your childhood while you can. You can't get it back. When your dying you'll look back and think... "Why didn't I live my life"?
    • 1
      HisServant77 Jun 6, 09
      Look at it from his point of view: Your life is probably 70 or so years on average. Time is also the most valuable possession you have. Why waste it on yourself, when you can work on helping others and using your time wisely (by seeking to further the human race). Once time is gone, it's gone. No going back. You can't have fun and then be like "Oh man, if only I had started to do this work when I was younger, I'd be so much further along with it." And then hit the rewind button. It's gone. Poof. No more.

      Some consider it more useful to use your time for others above all. Still some think obtaining more knowledge is their ultimate goal in life, so they'll start asap.

      Let's just hope the kid doesn't regret his choices, and that he DOES do some good for others.
      • 0
        Gamesta100 Jun 6, 09
        If you enjoy something it's not wasting your time.

        Also like you say, life is short, so do with it what you enjoy doing.There's lots of things I regret doing or not doing but what's done is done, no point in worrying about what could have been.
    • 3
      BANDITO ATTACK Jun 6, 09
      lol did you just say a kid who is an eleven year-old college grad being hailed as a genius and doesn't waste his time on video games isn't living his life to the fullest?
      when i was his age, i was outside doing things, and being active. playing video games is hardly what being a kid is all about. actually it's more what being a boring know-it-all teenager is all about.
  • 1
    Dragoshi1 Jun 6, 09
    Screw this kid(not literally), games are what makes us human. The army plays war games for practice/simulations, garry's mod is sued to architect houses and buildings before going through with building the actual thing, and those fisherprice baby games are helping babies become smarter and eventually become smart adults.

    This 11 yr old kid makes me wanna slap him across the face and bite his ear off.
    • 2
      HisServant77 Jun 6, 09
      Lol Wow, Drago, you're letting an 11 year old kid "get your goat" like that? Why?
  • 1
    BANDITO ATTACK Jun 6, 09
    video games are a waste of time. any downtime i have that i spend playing games could be used doing something far more constructive. i could be learning a new skill, studying, or even just reading something interesting on wikipedia. but i'd rather just sit around and play halo or whatever.

    like it or not, video games are mostly just hollow entertainment, and it's not this kids fault if to all you jackasses videogames=life.
    • 1
      Reenee Jun 6, 09
      It's only a waste of time in your life if you let video games dominate your life. If you're the kind of guy who's going to have to decide between a crappy Halo title (read: ANY of them) versus your naked girlfriend waiting for you in bed and you HAVE to contemplate about that sort of situation, you are officially a loser and a no-life. Video games are a normal hobby just like anything else and if you moderate your time with them, you'll be fine.

      This kid just proves that being a genius doesn't stop you from being a douche.
    • 5
      Gamesta100 Jun 6, 09
      Yeah and so is getting drunk off your face but that doesn't stop millions of people doing just that.
      • 0
        Reenee Jun 7, 09
        Either he doesn't know any better or he's having an ego trip. I don't see the offense here.
        • 0
          Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
          It's because with him it happens all of the time. This isn't just a one time thing for which Gsta's calling him a prick.
        • 1
          BANDITO ATTACK Jun 7, 09
          saying video games are mindless entertainment makes me an ego-trip. how?

          also excuse the hell out of me for contradicting the hivemind of gamegrep. i will try to adjust my mindset to think more like a defensive 15 year-old gamer in the future.
        • 0
          Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
          You are excused (it should also be noted, before you start PMSing at the wrong person, I was referring simply to the context Gsta was putting it; I'm not saying you're a prick for what you're saying but you generally do the whole 'wanna-be gamegrep rebel' thing, for which he is calling you a prick, therefore with you this happens all the time).
        • 0
          Reenee Jun 8, 09
          All of my posts are in reference to the child, not anyone who's responded.
      • 3
        BANDITO ATTACK Jun 7, 09
        just because millions of people do it - it's not a waste of time? genius.
        • 1
          Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
          quote BANDITO ATTACK
          just because millions of people do it - it's not a waste of time? genius.
          LOL; he's got you by the short hairs on that one Gsta xD
    • 2
      Zero and X Jun 6, 09
      By that logic so are movies, music, going on youtube, and a many other things.
    • 5
      Tiger of Wu Jun 6, 09
      So resting ones mind from hectic day to day life and relieving stress by indulging in a virtual world from time to time is a waste? Oh, I apologise, lets all spend every second of our lives working and trying to solve how to better humanity before having a mental breakdown and dying due to lack of downtime.

      Some meditate. Some play sports. Some paint model trains. Some watch movies. Some read. Some do yoga. Some do yoga fire. Some play video-games. (and mix matches of whatever).

      Only a pretentious/ignorant ass-hole would consider it, as a whole, a waste of time.
      • 1
        Zero and X Jun 6, 09
        Exactly, its not because we're obsessed gamers and we're just pissed he talked bad about games, he's essentially saying that any downtime is a waste of time which is just ridiculous.
  • 0
    Existence Jun 6, 09
    Playing baseball, cricket, basketball is a waste of time. Watching movies and making them is a waste of time. Having foreplay is a waste of time. Lets stop playing sports, watching movies; lets devote ourselves entirely to the future of mankind, and get right down to penetration.

    (The above was sarcastic, btw)

    Meh, hes entirely entitled to his opinion. I enjoy playing video games, so I'll do it.
  • 0
    Molotov Cupcake Jun 6, 09
    I really don't care what he has to say about, well, anything. He's smart - that's great. I enjoy gaming and writing about gaming. I'm sure he doesn't give a damn what I do, either.
  • 2
    Tiger of Wu Jun 6, 09
    All of these comments because some self-satisfying, conceited kid thinks that being proclaimed a genius allows him to think less of certain people?

    Or, in the interest of fairness;

    Because some stupid little people took one of his opinions as a massive truth just because he's proclaimed as a genius, even though he made it passingly and doesn't give two shits.
  • 2
    Zero and X Jun 6, 09
    Genius or not, ignorance is applicable to everyone.
  • 3
    King X2 Jun 6, 09
    He may be considered a "genius", but his viewpoints on video games are the same as anyone else's to me. I could give a rat's ass less if some eleven-year old dislikes video games.

    He doesn't have to like video games, but he doesn't necessarily have to have fun like we all want him to. If he wants to use his abilities to change the world, then that's awesome. That's the only part I really care about.
  • 0
    kik36 Jun 6, 09
    Maybe he is a genius.....he riled up everyone on Gamegrep pretty damn easily.....perhaps it was a college social experiment. LOL
    • 2
      Tiger of Wu Jun 6, 09
      It takes a genius to rile up Gamegrep? Articles about Flower are all it takes to rile up Gamegrep xD
      • 2
        kik36 Jun 7, 09
        quote Tiger of Wu
        It takes a genius to rile up Gamegrep? Articles about Flower are all it takes to rile up Gamegrep xD
        LMFAO Ain't that the frickin' truth!! LOL
    • 1
      McClubbin Jun 6, 09
      Last I checked, Gamegrep did cover video games. Saying that most of the people here who play them have essentially wasted a good part of their life isn't going to get him a standing ovation around here. Now if the same comment was reported on CNN, I'm sure everybody there would be throwing laurels at his feet.
  • 1
    cartridge Jun 6, 09
    quote
    "I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way".
    If he could only help himself all his life , that would be a great accomplishment.
  • 4
    TurMoiL911 Jun 7, 09
    quote
    Moshe Kai Cavalin, 11, graduates with honors from East Los Angeles Community College with a Associate Arts degree in Liberal Studies
    It's a shame that community colleges don't teach social skills.

    This kid can have all the college degrees in the world. That doesn't make you a good person. What's the point of it all when you're life is all work and you don't make time to actually enjoy the little things in life ? There comes a time where you need to put the textbooks down and hang out with friends.

    I don't envy this kid, I pity him. When I was his age, I was out having fun with my friends.

    On a side-note: kid, thanks for breaking the stereotype for us Asians. I read the title and the first thing I thought was, "Oh, he's Asian."
  • 0
    StarJet Jun 7, 09
    I seriously LOL'd. What a sad kid. Shame, he doesn't know what he's missing.
    *points finger at stupid genius and laughs*
  • 0
    Sakuraba Neku Jun 7, 09
    who the hell cares? this is worthy of being an article.
    • 10
      TurMoiL911 Jun 7, 09
      Better this than another "Top ten" article.

      AMIRITE
  • 0
    Bale Fire* Jun 7, 09
    As others have stated, a lot of things don't benefit humanity in any way. Movies, eating good foods, having pets all do nothing for the earth, but he likely hasn't thought that far.
    • 1
      chautemoc Jun 7, 09
      Protest films, compost, pets keep bug and rodent populations reasonable.
      Werd.
      • 1
        Euphoric Jun 7, 09
        Educational games. Werd?
        • 0
          chautemoc Jun 10, 09
          Those too.
          Yup, werd. That's how I do it 'round here.
  • 0
    ali3n Jun 7, 09
    So, what have you all gained from playing video games for however it is that you have been playing?
    • 1
      Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
      Stress relief, relaxation, mental stimulation, entertainment and epic growths in creativity.

      What have you gained from obnoxious questions? xP
      • 0
        ali3n Jun 7, 09
        Answers.

        Mental stimulation? Really? How has these 'epic growths in creativity' manifested itself?

        I'm genuinely curious, sorry if it comes across as me being a dick.
        • 0
          Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
          If you are genuinely curious then it's fair enough. Although, being a pedant, I must point out that you meant 'How have these 'e.g.i.c.' manifested themselves?', not has and itself

          Well, in writing. I'm a writer. Seeing plotpoints in videogames and innovation in combat, style, characters and the like (for example the uses of weapon and style combinations in Devil May Cry or the forms of time manipulation for the Prince of Persia trilogy) have helped and do help evolve ideas of my own for which I use in stories, in the same way the same things do in movies or books. As for the mental stimulation it's mostly the same as the creativity thing; I see something and imagine the millions (well, not millions, since that would fry my brain) of different ways it could be done, changed, chopped and added to other things, thus progressing my own ideas in the process.

          For example I'd be thinking about how to add an extra element to an otherwise decent story to make it more then that, and then I'll remember (bad example but since inspiration can't be called it'll have to do, since it's just an example xD) Jack in Bioshock having to fight against the mental control Fontaine has on him and think perhaps I could have something to do with *character* having an inner power he/she has to supress/fight to control and it goes from there. Or maybe I'm just thinking of a unique weapon for a character to have then I remember DMC3 in which Dante fought with a guitar and give the character something similar (a harmonica that can control elements (Reverant 20 ftw (you don't need to know xD))) and so on and so forth
        • 0
          ali3n Jun 7, 09
          I had something like that to begin with but I then changed a plural somewhere but forgot to change the 'these' to 'this'.

          I see, thank you.
  • 1
    iLLmatic Jun 7, 09
    LMAO what's wrong with you people? He's a damn child. Who cares what he said? I can't believe how many comments this stirred up. I'm dyin over here.
    • 1
      Tiger of Wu Jun 7, 09
      Flower stirred up even more, filled with a lot more hatred, anger, flaming and stupidity.

      Welcome to Gamegrep
    • 0
      RabidChinaGirl Jun 7, 09
      Yeah, like I said above, he's just a kid, and despite his "genius" academic intellect, he still doesn't have as much general experience as the rest of us. Seems pretty sad that people are getting all worked up over it (and that the original writers thought it newsworthy).
  • 0
    Star of Spurs* Jun 7, 09
    Have to lol at people calling him a dumbass. No, he's a genius, it's quite obvious he's not a dumbass, he's probably smarter than you, stop being so upset because he offended your hobby.
  • 0
    Capn Droid Jun 10, 09
    To the people calling him either 100% brilliant or 100% stupid for being called brilliant: just stop. He would say something completely different if he graduated as, say, a Graphics Designer. He is brilliant - in the category of Liberal Studies. Doesn't mean he's anything better in any other category.

    The kid says that video games are a waste of time, and we could spend so much more time trying to figure out how to better the world. I say that all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. I'm not going to work from 7 till 9 trying to figure out how I can create infinite energy from breathing. It gets the job done, but it's inhuman. Plus, children - the main population of gamers - actually need to play, interact, and be entertained if they want to grow up with any personality at all. I can nearly guarantee that that kid will never have a friend who isn't actually a scientist trying to manipulate him.

    Also, found it funny that nobody pointed out yet that he's Asian. :3
    • 1
      Tiger of Wu Jun 10, 09
      quote TurMoiL911
      On a side-note: kid, thanks for breaking the stereotype for us Asians. I read the title and the first thing I thought was, "Oh, he's Asian."
      • 0
        Capn Droid Jun 12, 09
        Oops. Hardly noticed that.
  • 1
    carouselambra Jun 10, 09
    Kudos to him man, the kid's got some focus. He's 11 years old, and already more qualified than I am, (then again most 11 year olds are) It's not something bad he's saying here, you know - it's because things get so blown up like this, that 90% of people don't bother trying. At the end of the day he's only a kid, he's not trying to spark some sort of a revolution. But what's he saying here, he's not telling you what to do. I understand man; he's saying he knows what HE wants to do, where he wants to go, and he isnt gonna waste time playing games; some things are more important than recreation. That's a very rare thing man, very rare outlook - that's something to be encouraged. This reminds me of, about 5 or 10 years ago, there was a big worry on the news about some asteroid that's apparently gonna collide with earth in 30 years, and an 8 year old kid appeared on the tv and said "i'm gonna go to University and study physics (or whatever it is) and build a giant laser to save you all" and immediately you laugh at him and say HAH what a dickhead get a haircut you hippy, but then as the hilarity of his goofiness wears off, you think, you know what mate good on you, go for it. You build that laser, save us all, cos no-one else is gonna bother. no-one else has the balls to do anything, no-one else has the sense of self to actually step up and put some thought into what they do in this life. So build it man. When it comes down to it, they're not probably not even worth saving, but build it anyway. Beats the alternative.

    These are the people that make the world go round man. This is progress. These are the people that achieve something; laugh at him, or look down your nose at him, but what have YOU achieved? Ask that when the laughter stops man. what a world it's become where we should all be acting more like 11 year olds.
  • 0
    Gamesta100 Jun 11, 09
    Actually BA didn't "get me by the short hairs" as you say.I SAID getting drunk off your faces IS a waste of time, but everyone does it anyway.I didn't say it's not a waste of time.

    Just another time I've been made to wonder if half the people on the net actually pay attention and understand what the hell it is I said.

    So it's obviously I'm more of a genius than BA is seeing as he can't even understand simple English.
  • 1
    DragonPirateZolo Jun 11, 09
    At Carouselambra... He may have focus and he may do what he think is right but the thing is playing Games is part of life. You can't tell me nobody in this generation has never played a game on the internet or any other sort of video game. You just can't alright. If you said you'd be lying. This kid just needs to... Well... Be a kid.
    • 0
      carouselambra Jun 11, 09
      Playing games is not part of life man. Playing games may be a part of your life, playing games may be a part of many people's life, playing games may be the way the modern world is, but it's not a birthright. There are people in the world, maybe not in this part of the world, but there are people, who've never seen a computer, who know nothing of the internet, who've never seen a gamepad or an xbox or a playstation, and they're better off for it. They're genuinely happy.Now, I'm not saying,"give up all your worldly goods and you'll be happy" but what I am saying is, it is possible to be happy without all of that crap. There's more important things.If this kid doesn't wanna sit around and play games, and wants to get something done instead, then good on him. People get joy from different things; for example how long would a formula one driver be able to play gran turismo before they fell asleep from boredom? It's not providing them with enough; some people can't be happy just playing games.

      quote tiger of wu
      Can you not post two long paragraphs every time? I can only read two sentences of what you write before stopping due to your spam days (whether they're over or not I don't know but don't feel like finding out ); it's not a good thing if you're trying to tell me something.

      But no I'm not making a point of the article; I'm making a point that GG gets riled up easily, that Flower catastrophe was just the best example that came to mind. Now, condense your hate-filled reply talking about my ignorance and non-existant-but-existant-in-your-eyes-ADHD or I'm not going to read it.
      Nah it's not hate filed mate. I actually explicitly stated there that I wasnt refering specifically to you, and you've instead gone and demonstrated exactly what I was talking about; there's no need for insult. If you don't like what I've said, disregard it, doesn't bother me. But it's those "passive aggressive" jabs, that end up tipping it over the edge.

      And if it takes me two paragraphs to make that point, so be-it. That always was and is my philosophy on it; you call it spam I call it grade-A butcher's choice man you should all be over the moon that there's so much of it. Enough for everyone. Like Jesus with the bread and fish.
  • 0
    Big Willie Jun 11, 09
    You guys need to understand the difference between "waste of time" and "vidjama games are the devil." The kid is right, video games are a waste of time. Anything that's entertainment is pretty much a waste of time. Does it make it any less fun? No. Kid says he's not into games and you guys jump down his throat. Leave him be. This kid is a genius and as such he should be using his gift to help humanity. While you're playing COD4 this dude could be curing cancer. So if games aren't his thing, frankly, I'm okay with it.
    • 0
      Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
      Entertainment isn't a waste of time. Throughout the history of the Earth entertainment has been used as a way to relieve stress and achieve relaxation, which is needed to keep a mind healthy. That's the point; writing off all entertainment as a waste of time because is it isn't working for the betterment of humanity is like saying working in a supermarket is a waste of time, since it isn't curing cancer. But people need to work to get money to live. In the same way people need to relax and relieve stress to not have mental breakdowns.

      Some people play sports, read, paint models (the miniature kind, not the Tyra Banks kind... though that would be fun) and so on and some people play video games. To say all forms of entertainment are a waste of time is either highly arrogant or incredibly naive.

      Though make no mistake; there are a number of people above PMSing because he 'be dissing they jive'.
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        carouselambra Jun 11, 09
        That's from a Universal, world-wide perspective though man - Entertainment IS needed for the Human race, as a whole, to stop us all from losing our minds. Because we can't all be doing something of utmost importance, all the time. BUT, on an individual basis, it's reasonable that someone may not care for entertainment such as films or television or games; or books that aren't specifically filled with the knowledge they're looking for, it's reasonable to say, that on an individual basis a person can live without "entertainment" or down times. ALL people couldnt, but A person can. This kid can. If you know where you wanna go then there's no time to waste.

        And it's only a waste, if you could be doing something more. It's not a waste for someone to work in a supermarket, because they ARE working. BUT, it is a waste, if they could be doing something more than that. If they COULD cure cancer, but work in that supermarket instead, then it is a waste. If you could influence the world for the better, but choose to play games instead, then that's what's a waste. Not playing games; but playing games in LIEU of something of greater importance. That's the waste.

        Some people can balance that out, some people cant. Some people need that relaxation time, so they're then more able to immerse themselves in their work later; some people need to remain immersed in that work, so they dont lose their focuse or their vision; and SOME people, keep themselves in that relaxation time, because they're afraid of the work. Generally speaking, of course, but that's the way it is man.
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          Tiger of Wu Jun 11, 09
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          Anything that's entertainment is pretty much a waste of time.
          I was just arguing that point.

          It's obvious the kid does get entertainment and stress relief, if not through anything else, because he does Martial Arts, which isn't going to help him make scientific breakthroughs, is it? It's just something to keep him fit and he must enjoy doing, since he's championship level.

          Yet, he says
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          "I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way,"
          which is coneited, or at least naive, since what he's doing in saying that is degrading gaming as a form of entertainment. Martial Arts, whilst not solving humanities problems, is A-OK but video-games are a waste of time Is that part of a greater hierarchy? What about sculpting and golfing; which is better? And so on.

          Like I've said above though, there's a very big possibility his comment on it was just passing and he doesn't care whether people do it or not, I'm just arguing against BW saying 'entertainment is a waste', since it's not.
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          carouselambra Jun 11, 09
          Well it comes down to context man, like I said, entertainment, and "games" are only a waste, if you have something better to be doing. If you dont, then it's a waste NOT to play.

          And martial arts, solves problems in a different way man, martial arts solves your own problems. It's a regime to strengthen the mind and the body, it's not a game. It's not neccessarily the point that he's "not allowed" to do ANYTHING that isnt gonna "save the world", it's just a mindset. some people are only happy doing things that has a clear cut purpose/effect. When it comes down to it, I dont expect anyone is gonna live their life according to what an 11 year old says. It really is just a matter of, if you enjoy games, then play em; if you dont then dont. And look at what alternatives you have; personally if I had something better to be doing, if I had a focus like this, not only would I not play games, but I wouldnt be here talking about it either; because I wouldnt be able to live with turning my back on that. Maybe tommorow I'll find something, who knows, but as it is, I in fact envy those people that really know where they're going man. Games are just games, who gives a shit, they serve a momentary purpose and that's the sum of it.
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          Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
          You wrote a lot considering you were agreeing with me... odd
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    DragonPirateZolo Jun 12, 09
    To me entertainment isn't a waste of time. It's a part of life. To me video games are a part of life. Everyone has played one before. Other than 3rd world countries as Carouse said but still this kid should make the most of his life. He's got a lot of years to do anything. Give video games a try kid. It's fun. Trust me.
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      Tiger of Wu Jun 12, 09
      Who's to say he hasn't and just didn't like them?
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    DragonPirateZolo Jun 12, 09
    Well that's his choice I guess. He deserves the right to think for himself but I'm just saying that he should be a kid. A normal kid.
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    Koloth Jun 12, 09
    Pheh. He has an assciates in liberal studies from a community college. That's about the easiest degree in the world to get. And while that is impressive for an 11 year old it is hardly useful in any way what so ever. LOL he could manage a McDonalds with that degree.

    Go to a real college kid and get a real degree and some life experience.
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      Reenee Jun 14, 09
      quote Koloth
      Pheh. He has an assciates in liberal studies from a community college. That's about the easiest degree in the world to get. And while that is impressive for an 11 year old it is hardly useful in any way what so ever. LOL he could manage a McDonalds with that degree.

      Go to a real college kid and get a real degree and some life experience.
      THIS.

      (Actually, while it may be the easiest degree to get, it also gets him on his way to a teaching credential if he so chooses.)
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    FinalFantasyFanaticc Jun 14, 09
    This kid will soon die of boredom.
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      Euphoric Jun 15, 09
      I seriously doubt that...
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    Solid Snake 4Life Jun 15, 09
    I'll put down my controller and begin helping humanity when humanity stops being filled with douches. When the whole *bleep*ing world wants help and you know stops killing each other I'll become a scientist to figure out how to make one raindrop enough water for a city. Then after I'm done I'll probably get bored go to vegas do a line off a strippers butt buy some KFC and pick my controller back up. Or you know something like that.
    And once the kid takes up you know something serious like you know nuclear physics or discovers how to stop AIDS I'll begin to take a seconds look. Untill then yeah he's a kids but arent kids the most annoying of all.
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    DragonPirateZolo Jun 17, 09
    Great speech Solid Snake. Probably a bit offensive but still true.

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