Valve's Doug Lombardi says that their latest PS3 game production have been inferior to the original releases. They said they won't develop a new game until they have the ability to form a PS3 team that would be able to make the same type of products for the PS3 and PS2 that works the same as their games in 360 and PC.

"We look at it as if we were customers of this product, how would we want to be treated and what sort of product would we want out of it?

We've run a couple of experiments over the years of PlayStation in general; we did Half-Life on PS2 with an outside company and then we did Orange Box PS3 with an outside company. We weren't able to deliver the same type of product on PS3 and PS2 for that matter that we were on the 360 and PC.

Until we have the ability to get a PS3 team together, until we find the people who want to come to Valve or who are at Valve who want to work on that, I don't really see us moving to that platform.

We've kind of learned a lesson in that again, if we were customers of that product on PlayStation, we'd feel like we sort of got the stepchild version of the product while the guys on the PC and the 360 got the sweet version of it."
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  • 1
    Twin_Master Jul 6, 09
    Sounds great considering they want to ensure they get the most of the console instead of shunning it.
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    Red 9 Jul 6, 09
    You know, while all the PR guys were out and about telling us about how much Valve hates the PS3, I'm willing to bet that this here is what they were thinking the whole time.
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      Shattered Jul 6, 09
      I bet that they are only starting to care about the PS3 now because it's starting to make a profit, or at least predicted to (if it hasn't - I don't know)
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        Hideo1 Jul 6, 09
        Obviously. If you're not going to make enough profit on a business deal you don't go through with it; now, because the PS3 is making more money (independantly and for the devs as well) they feel they will, so they're going to. That's business 101 xD
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          DystopiaSticker Jul 6, 09
          But people should care about the PS3 because it's the right thing to do! Not because of lame useless profit.
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      VeGiTAX2 Jul 6, 09
      Look through their white papers for development guides including the PS3 in them. They've considered the console and technology and have worked out solutions for some items over quite a bit of time. From things like the Cell to the differences in color processing between the PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 RSX.

      They've always had something going on, but not enough to actually throw down a full team. If you follow their dev papers there are many things they've already inspected.
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      Hideo1 Jul 6, 09
      Nope. Not the whole time. The whole time they were thinking of ways they could work with the PS3 whilst making enough profit themselves, and they've been thinking about this since they figured that out.

      And the PR guys weren't speaking about how Valve hates the PS3. That was the fanboys and media purposely misconstruing what they said. Aside from when it came to Gabe, of course xD
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    HisServant77 Jul 6, 09
    So . . .
    "We won't develop for the PS3. It's too hard to develop."
    "Well yeah okay we're going to put together a PS3 team."
    "We've halted PS3 development until we get a team together."

    They seem to be sticking to the same theme: Getting a PS3 Team together. However, it just makes it FEEL flip-floppy, "I don't like the PS3. The PS3 is okay. Well we've always liked the PS3 but we're waiting for a team."
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      Celes Leonhart Jul 6, 09
      Gabe is the one that personally dislikes the Playstation. That doesn't represent whether or not Valves as a team will work on it though.
    • 1
      Hideo1 Jul 6, 09
      That's just ignorant. Those quotes (and the subtexts they represent) were said on different occasions, by different people in different contexts.

      Just because the common factor of those quotes is Valve, to one degree or another, doesn't mean that they represent Valve as a whole in the slightest. People need to learn a little more before judging, because now the internet is rampant with people who think Valve as a company are anti-PS3, be it in personal attitude or speaking business-wise, which is just unparalleled levels of wrong.
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        HisServant77 Jul 6, 09
        Those quotes aren't ignorant. Those quotes are paraphrases I made up. If I put the actual quotes in, the comment would have probably been much bigger.

        And I know that they were simply one (or a few) and not the whole of Valve. It's like I said though, they stuck to the same thing: Developing for the PS3 when a PS3 team is put together. However, the FEEL of the different things being said in the Media about Valve, makes it FEEL wishy-washy or flip-floppy whichever you'd use.

        As far as I personally know, Valve considers the PS3 hard to develop for, therefore are putting together a PS3 team who can better dev for it, and will start developing for the PS3 once that team is together. Nothing wrong with that, nothing seems to be flip-flopping. I was talking about the general PR feeling of everything. Not what it actually is.
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          Hideo1 Jul 7, 09
          The quotes aren't ignorant; what you're saying they represent, however, is.

          And that isn't the PR feeling, that's the media and public's misconceptions. Don't get me wrong, I can understand why you think this and I'm not trying to call you stupid or anything, but without clarification what you said was ignorant, be it due to misleading news articles and public opinions or not.
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          Red 9 Jul 7, 09
          Somehow I really doubted we misconstrued something. I quite vividly recall the article, though the title escapes me, that one of them at Valve said the PS3 was a waste of Sony's time and money.

          What I said, which unfortunately seems to have initiated a large debate that I have yet to have involvement in until now, is that I believe [now] that Valve really wanted to have a skilled PS3 team from the beginning, and was just being masked by some rather unsightly media PR statements.

          The throwing about of the word ignorant, and subsequent squabbling, is really quite unnecessary.
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          Hideo1 Jul 7, 09
          Yes, one of them said the PS3 was a waste.

          One white person said black people should be killed. Does that represent all white people? Of course not. To group in Valve as anti-PS3 because of what one Valve worker has said is ignorant, no matter how you look at it.

          And I believe I was replying to HisServant, not you, so how you started this debate I don't know. In fact to say that is very arrogant. =/

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