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Compared to the old days where PS2 was the only console people thought worth bothering with that didn't include giving up you soul to Nintendo, it is a lot less. But Msoft are buying up as much as they can and, I don't care what they say, soon Sony will follow suit. Gaming was nowhere near as big as it is now than it was then, so comparing them on such a base level is very reductive.

You say "I don't care what you say", but I'm telling you the truth. Simply put, there are fewer exclusives out there now than there used to be.

... come again?

I'm saying comparing it to how it used to be is silly because of how much bigger gaming has become. I never said 'I don't care what you say', I offered a valid comeback to your point. It's called a discussion. Now you're the one ignoring that and just saying 'hurr durr, whatever, I dun' care, I tell twoof, you wrong', so get stuffed. =\

You're backing off quite a bit there, eh? Comparing it to the past is the only thing you can compare things to, so don't be stupid. Simply put, the amount of console exclusives are DECREASING. That is the trend, and it's pretty obvious.

You say "old days", but it was only last generation. Stop acting like I'm referring to some ancient history here. The fact is that gaming companies aren't going to put all their eggs into one basket anymore, regardless of one-time financial incentives from a company.

You didn't respond with a valid comeback, and that's my point. Perhaps if you had responded with something that had at least some merit to it, my response would have been different. The fact is that you said "well Microsoft spends a lot of money for exclusives so Sony will have to do the same". That is nothing short of a farce, and you should know that. How many exclusives has Microsoft even bought this generation? Really, I'd love to know.

Seriously, you're completely lost on this. Telling me to "get stuffed" because you can't offer even a slight rebuttal is telling of how much you actually know on the subject. I mean really, do you even want to try comparing the legitimacy of my responses to yours?

You gave me nothing to offer a *bleep*ing rebuttal to, you just said 'hurr, whatever'.

You misunderstood my point. You're saying the past is the only thing to compare it to. I'm saying you shouldn't be comparing it to ANYTHING at all.

Compared to the old days it was a rarity, but in actuality, by the standards of now, it isn't.

And I refer to it as the old days because the market and industry are completely damn different to how it was; if everything is generally different in one time frame than in another, no matter how much time has passed, they're considered to be different. It's simple logic. Children understand that.

As for the actual point I'm not saying it's something that's just going to happen like *snap* that's the way it is, but since you seem to like trends so damn *bleep*ing much even you should be able to see that that's where the trend is headed.

Christ, you're acting dense.

then it wouldn't be multiplatform, that would just be making 2 separate games. Which is far less productive, that said, there's really no features and abilities other than space that would truly change the gaming experience from PS3 to 360.

Right now their isn't any major difference in either console that would greatly distinguish a multiplatform game. Unless if it was originally a 360 only title, then the PS3 version might suffer because of it being more difficult to develop on and vice versa.

Most Multiplatform games work great, the PS3 used to suffer because it was clearly harder to develop on but I don't think that should be an excuse anymore.

Sure it could be the same game. I think some devs could do it too. I think there's a few games out there (can't remember which one(s) at the moment) that aren't exclusive, but have exclusive features for the different platforms. Things like that

Bad idea. Production times and values will hit the roof. Plus everyone will be crying about certain consoles getting more stuff and the companies will constantly be *bleep*-blocking each other on it.

Hideo, Sony have been *bleep*-blocking themselves when it comes to exclusives and exclusive DLC...they have no backbone when snatching something out of the jaws of Msoft. Look at Final Fantasy XIII and several other games that were timed-exclusive, which originally were meant to be multi-platform (Bioshock)

This all started when they gave Bethesda Softworks the finger when the 360 was near release and PS3 was held back, Beth Soft went ahead with the 360 launch date but were held back for the PS3 launch...during that time, deals with the DLC were going on, Sony said "screw you, we don't want your DLC" so Beth Soft said "ok, here you go Msoft"

One year later, Oblivion is successful on PC and 360, all DLC lapping up the profit while the PS3 got KoTN and Shivering Isles, none of the other DLC and that was only because the game got GoTY, which ironically enough wouldn't have happened without the success on the 360 and PC.

My whole point is, Sony have been shooting themselves in the foot for awhile now and until they stop doing that, then they will always lag behind (probably limping due to the shooting)

Either way as someone mentioned, the competition between the companies themselves is good, I have now tasted both sides and tbh, other than the free online play (which didn't turn out well and the odd drip of exclusive games such as GoWIII) the PS3 isn't a bad console, however I am very much preferring the 360 now and that's coming from someone whom for years disliked the 360

That...or you're just hung up on Bethesda, because as the rest of the gaming population has been seeing it, Sony has been producing some excellent exclusives. They are far from "shooting themselves in the foot", as you continue to repeat...over and over again.

'Cuase frankly the only thing you ever bring up in that argument is Oblivion and its DLC. And frankly that game is three or more years old. LET IT GO, SHADOW.

One example about BethSoft, who are all you *bleep*ing talk about by the way, isn't valid as an entire evaluation of the company. Your post is stupid. That is all.

Because my dear RedNeon, if you don't go to the point in time where things started to go wrong, you can never understand the timeline of what is to come.

I never said the exclusives for PS3 were bad, I would love to play God of War III and was the sole reason I bought the PS3 in the first place along with playing with my friends but my PS3 died a few months before I moved to Germany to start a new life and a new job, so wasn't able to get another PS3 unless I waited, then decided to get a 360 instead.

Also on that note, yes it was 3 years ago but ironically enough, companies like Microsoft and EA are constantly hounded for simple choices they have made...even more ironic that when Sony are bashed, a PS3 user comes to say "LET IT GO IT WAS 3 YEARS AGO"....I wonder if that works for a prisoner....the victim's family cursing the prisoner's name and the prisoner's family shouting " JESUS, LET IT GO, HE KILLED YOUR SON 5 YEARS AGO!"

@Hideo: Yes, what an amazing come back, curse at me and state that one example doesn't prove my point. It's an example, that shows what I am talking about, there doesn't need to be 5 or 6 examples to prove the exact same point that one example proves.

Also nice way of ignoring my post completely by using the "your post is stupid" comment. It isn't stupid, it is my opinion of where Sony messed up and why I think they shot themselves in the foot. DLC isn't the be all and end all but going on its current success, Sony had the chance of being in on it from the beginning...they didn't take that chance and now they are trying to get in on the game. Same with exclusives...Microsoft grabs all the timed exclusives and barges their way into the line to be first. This stops the PS3 from getting the game for a year or two.

In that time 360 and PC users have played the game, discussed the game and PS3 users are left in the dust.

You're acting like Oblivion is the be all and end all of gaming, the turning point of our generation and you're saying because Sony didn't get on it ASAP they're in the red now. That is stupid.

The amount of games that were involved in Sony shooting themselves in the foot stretches far beyond and far before Oblivion; it began when Squenix started dev-ing FF13 before the PS3 was even made. Oblivion was just another game that got caught up in the madness, not the trigger that was pulled to shoot them; the only reason you think in such a way is because Bethsoft are all you *bleep*ing talk about. Hence, your post is stupid. If I still have to spell it out for you, Sony's *bleep* ups have very little to do with them not having the balls to snatch things away like you think, it's about them not having had the adequate money to risk it during those early days because their foresight was so ridiculous. But no, they didn't suck Bethsoft off when they had the chance so they must be bad, right?

Your post was bad and you should feel bad.

What happened to Marxy? =[

You mean Kave En 2.0? Alt account, obviously