Dave Perry, creator of MMO '2 moons', feels that the Nintendo Wii will not be able to hold its appeal to consumers for the long term. What he thinks is that once the major graphics intensive start appearing on the other consoles and people realise the usefulness of the more advanced hardware, the Wii will start to lose it's appeal. All this and more in his interview with Disposable Media.

While the Wii is currently the fastest selling home console globally, Dave Perry has asserted that the graphical prowess of rival next generation hardware will steal consumers away from its user base. He also believes that the Wii’s interface is not the “final solution”.
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  • -1
    Bale Fire Jul 19, 07
    This what anyone with sense could have figured out 6 months ago!
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    bbb7002004 Jul 19, 07
    I would agree that the Wiimote is not the end of controller development, but that's about all I can agree with in this article. Controllers will continue to evolve over time, becoming better and more fun to use with each new console.

    I disagree on his assertion that graphics will somehow undo the Wii. That is a very old school way of thinking in terms of video games. I think the DS is proof enough that creativity and innovation can overrun graphics easily.

    Since the inception of video games, each new generation has lead to a leap in the graphical capabilities that video games can employ. 16 bit looked significantly better than 8 bit, and full 3D blew both out of the water. Last gen brought the ability to recreate the world around us realistically in a game. This gen. all that's left to do is improve on the details of the last gen. Textures and lighting are sharper, models have more polygons to give them smoother, more natural edges, more realistic physics engines and particle effects can be used, but none of these features really improves gaming as drastically as previous generation leaps, and certainly don't improve them enough to warrant the prices of the HD systems, at least in my opinion.

    In other words, we are entering a new era in gaming, where the technological leaps between the generations becomes less and less apparent, and where new innovation will have to take its place. You can't judge this generation of consoles by preconceived notions from the past.
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    bbb7002004 Jul 19, 07
    That is your opinion, though mine is a bit different.

    a. The PS3 and 360 are no different from their predecessors. They pretty much the exact same games, with slightly improved graphics, and not a lot else.
    b. HD graphics are admittedly a fad. In five years time, the current graphics level will be last gen, and everyone will be onto the next generic "Pretty" game. In fact, graphics tend to lose their effects on a game in minutes. Once the initial awe wears off, you stop caring if their are five thousand dust particles on screen, or if your virtual Shaq is sweating. You just play the game.
    c. The Wii isn't exactly stone age here. It certainly has better graphics than anything last gen, and is certainly playable.
    d. Nintendo has a habit of turning "fads" into long running successes, such as reviving console gaming.
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      Final Blade Jul 20, 07
      Um no HD isn't a fad its actually a thing which sells like hotcakes now with HD sports, HD movies and etc. But Blu-ray is kinda different in that aspect, since it doesn't use HD-DVD.
      Thats your opinion which is fine, but im talking about real hardcore gamers here. I mean anyone who has an xbox or PS system are hardcore gamers. The wii is a fad though. Its something that looks great and most people buy it alot in 1 year or so, and then it dies out. However it has better graphics than last gen yes, which is why the wii should have been last gen. Now its going against two powerhouse systems which can't compete in. So what if they sold money on consoles, MS and Sony has more games and new franchises that is like over 200+ combine how many great games does the wii have alone maybe max 20. That's 200>20 Thats a huge margin. When they both get there big guns the wii will be nothing more than a cute thing that isn't worth buying.
      And this guy knows what he's talking about. However im talking about now, but like my article suggested 2 moths ago lets wait and see. This is my opinion and which im bringing technology rather than wii remote and price which is the only thing going for Nintendo wii. Xbox and PS3 has combined 20 things that's makes it great, over wii.
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    nflsmc Jul 19, 07
    If people don't care about graphics now, why would they suddenly start caring later?
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    Reenee Jul 19, 07
    Dave Perry is the guy doing low-budget "free" games for Atari. i.e. Dance!

    Do you REALLY want to trust him?

    p.s. The DS was a "fad".

    GRAPHICS WILL PLATEAU. EVERY GAME WILL EVENTUALLY LOOK NO GREATER THAN THE OTHER.

    The next big thing may be, say, physics.
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    black_wing79 Jul 19, 07
    Actually i agree with that.. i think as it stands, the best any console can get to the best graphics is if they become like real life.. and right now, alot of games are already reaching that plateau..I mean i was watching the Gran Turismo 5 trailer and i have to say that if gets any more realistic than that, it just means we ourselves are living in a sub-standard graphic world.
  • -1
    FRoGBuster Jul 19, 07
    games will get better on the wii, just as they get better on the PS3
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    Storm* Jul 19, 07
    The only things the competition could beat Wii in is graphics. The Wii should hold up, though like I said before...releasing too many huge titles so soon isn't a great idea.

    But knowing Nintendo (since the first NES), they'll pull through
  • 0
    Gotenks* Jul 19, 07
    I guess Dave Perry hasn't seen Brawl or Galaxy.
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    Synergized Jul 19, 07
    Even if the graphics aren't as good, do the audience that the Wii appeal to (older people and the younger people) really care about the graphics? Older people will just say the graphics are good because they don't know the technology and the younger people don't care. It's mainly gameplay.
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    Insanity Prevails Jul 19, 07
    If graphics was all gamers cared about the XBOX would have won last generation. As it is the PS2, with technological inferior setup, came out the clear winner. Besides, it's not as if the Wii is pushing around SNES graphics.

    Despite the odd lapse when a movie tie-in somehow gets into the charts I wouldn't say gamers overall are stupid enough to be brought on graphics alone. If a gamer opts for a 360 or PS3 it will be because they have games that appeal, not because they look prettier.
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    weskraudaon Jul 19, 07
    This is a new era of lives in America and the world.. People want to have the graphics and it makes the game a more fun experience.
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    bakfromon Jul 19, 07
    Consumers are stupid, and as long as Nintendo keeps making games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports they'll sell a lot of Wiis. We're at a point right now were people (who have a life and occasionally play) would rather have something that is new and fun than something that looks good, and this is why Wiis will keep selling. Consumers are the reason why a company can give a console a cosmetic makeover and it will sell millions all over again(Gameboy, PS2, DS).
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    bbb7002004 Jul 19, 07
    quote weskraudaon
    This is a new era of lives in America and the world.. People want to have the graphics and it makes the game a more fun experience.
    I guess that's why the graphically inferior console of every generation has ended up far outselling their competition, correct?

    Leaving out pre 16-bit era consoles just because there is some debate as to which consoles were more powerful, PS1 beat out a superior N64, PS2 beat out superior GC and Xbox, DS is in the process of beating PSP. Why will this gen. be different?
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      Rinkydink Jul 20, 07
      Exactly, it most likely won't be.

      It has been said many times before that graphics isn't everything, and the Wii sales have obviously proven that. Let's see how many people will be calling it a fad in a years time, haha.
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    Arcturus Jul 20, 07
    Sadly he's right. Nintendo had a great marketing idea with sacrificing the graphics for an innovative, compact and cheap console that appeals to a large audience. However, even now the Wii is leagues away from the other two consoles. Despite what controller I'm using I'm still looking at the screen. I think Nintendo could have truly dominated the gaming market had they have released a graphically capable system with the innovative controller at a higher price point. It's clear that people are willing to pay upwards of a thousand dollars to play games, and I don't think Nintendo should have worried about the cost of it's console as much as they did.

    That being said, the Wii is bad ass, and I think that as long as developers continue to find new uses for the wiimote there will be a lot of attention given to it.
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    Final Blade Jul 20, 07
    But you guys are missing the point except weskraudaon, Its not about console though. Like i listed above how many great games does the wii have over ps3 and xbox. Its practically inferior. The playstation will probably end up having over 70 great exclusives and titles, that will dominate the wii. Xbox will probably have over great titles compared to the wii. Yes we know how fad the wii is now. But remember its not consoles sales that makes you win seeming how that's what making the wii great, its the games and like i listed xbox and playstation combine at the very least has 200, compared to wii lets say at the very least 24. Now how many consoles from the amount of games would xbox and playstation get during the big guns year against the wii games.

    The reason why the Sony won last year wasn't the consoles sales it was that combined with 100s of millions of games sales. Nintendo won't have that much success, cause it will come down to a few things graphics, gameplay and story. And right now Nintendo only has 5 top guns coming out and maybe a few in the later time. MS and Sony has like 5 times that amount of great games in the future. So that's why Nintendo is a fad.
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      Insanity Prevails Jul 20, 07
      Well, I was under the assumption that people purchased a games console to play games. If people are not purchasing games to go with their Wii's what are they using the console for? A paperweight? A bookend?

      "How many great games" is very subjective. Wii has a completely different approach than the other two consoles, and currently it is appealing to a lot of people.

      But I believe I mentioned it in another article that it's too early for anyone to be claiming victory or even defeat yet. We'll see where this all leads us.
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        Final Blade Jul 20, 07
        Actually i posted an article like that as well. But yes they do buy a console to play games but really like i said how many game will the wii have that will make it sell millions in a matter of months. And i bet most non gamers may play the system and games but not daily i bet there too busy to play at all with there jobs, and other stuff. You guys won't see the point that me or anyone like Dave Perry is saying. Wii has price and wii remote which anyone can use that technology and make it great, Im sure the new six-axis rumble controller would fix that up.
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    Miss Razz Jul 20, 07
    I'm sick of all these "the Wii is just a fad" articles. What proof do these people have that the Wii won't last much longer? Have they built a time-machine and gone into the future? Because that's the only way anyone could tell what will happen to the Wii.

    Everyone is just assuming that the 360 and PS3 are getting a "late start", but will eventually "wipe the floor" with the Wii once more of their exclusive games are released.

    But that is all mere speculation.

    The gaming future isn't all about who has the best graphics or how realistic/intense a game can be, so there's no guaranteeing that the 360 and PS3 will suddenly rise to major success, while the Wii falls into the back-row.

    The Wii is about "fun" games with "good-enough" graphics, and that's why so many people find it appealing.
    While some people are waiting for MGS4 to be released for PS3 (with it's detailed characters and deep storyline), others are waiting for SSBB to be released on Wii (with it's simple, fun gameplay and the chance to see much-loved favorites bash the crap outta each other).
    It's not just a matter of "PS3 or 360 will be getting good games soon, so people will switch to those consoles, and Wii's sales will soon go down". Different games appeal to different people. Some people might not be interested in the 360 and PS3's exclusives AT ALL. But that doesn't make them any less of a gamer.

    I personally think the Wii is more than just a passing faze. It's a decent console, simple as that.
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      Final Blade Jul 20, 07
      Yea but listen what your saying is all speculation as well. SO it kinds negates it self. Listen we don't know whats doing to happen, BUt sony won last time cause of more games, imagaine that with great graphics and it would be doubling in consoles sales from last gen. Like Existenz said about There are 124 million ps2 owners waiting to upgrade, take that with many many ps3 games and thats like sky rocketing sales, i don't think the wii has that many. Im in no way saying the wii isn't great system and is fun, what im merely saying is that its not going to beat the ps3 and xbox in the game department, I mean can you say the wii is a fad or not. Yea but both are speculations in the end.
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        Miss Razz Jul 20, 07
        What? No-where did I speculate anything in my post.

        You're the one speculating - assuming the number of PS2 owners who want to upgrade, and assuming that the 360 or PS3 will do better when there is no hard evidence that ANY system will win at the moment. That's speculation.
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    Capn Droid Jul 20, 07
    The graphics are fine, as long as they know how o utilize them properly. Well done on Mario's skin tone and denim overalls for the SSBB; it's a perfect example of what graphics should be. The Miis were seemingly done hastily.
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    Xtrordinary Jul 21, 07
    I agree with Gothic.

    And I mean, both the Xbox and Gamecube were graphically superior, with a rather large amount even mind you, but... Well. We all know how that battle went.

    I mean, I still play SNES, NES and all of those games and I swear to god, if Final Fantasy VI had been released today, I still would have bought it.
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    Jesse1234567 Jul 23, 07
    I have to disagree, Nintendo is continuously finding new ways to appeal to the people playing the games. Saying the graphics of Xbox 360 and PS3 will be more appealing than the Wii isn't exactly true, look at Super Smash Bros Brawl. The graphics in that game are amazing even compared to the other two consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if most Wii games after Brawl do have excellent graphics. Also, the way Brawl is, you can use the Gamecube controller, so if a problem with the Wii Remotes rises, then Nintendo still has the option to create games that require the Gamecube controller on Wii.

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