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IGN give LAIR a whopping 4.9 score

Jeterocks | August 30, 2007 | News | Playstation 3 
With 2 years of hype...stunning visuals...and the talk of "new" gameplay, it was bound to happen. Although the story seems to be great it all boils down to a few key things...controls and a bad lock on system.

Many have feared that the mandatory Sixaxis was going to be the games downfall, and it seems to be exactly the case.
It was somewhere in the neighborhood of my fourth pass over a bridge filled with two warring factions and a bunch of evil rhinos that I went from thinking Lair wasn't that bad to wondering if Lucifer himself pressed this Blu-ray disc in the pits of hell.

See, the time had come for my Asylains to draw up a peace treaty with a group of neighboring bad guys called the Mokai, but when the peace process soured, a huge battle erupted and I -- Rohn, one of the best dragon-riding sky guards around -- needed to make sure our troops came out on top.

No doubt, that sounds interesting and fun; however, Lair's terrible controls and god-awful lock-on system make this a mission worthy of swallowing the business end of a shotgun to avoid.

...Sure, the FMVs are graphically impressive and so are parts of the gameplay, but there are lots of times I found myself rolling my eyes at what I was seeing on the screen -- I'm talking about tearing, square waves, a chugging framerate and water effects that look like sand.

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  • 0 thumbs!
    Existenz | August 31, 2007
    Oh dear, can't argue with that... Though i also take it with a pinch of salt, every person has their own preferences i love the SIXAXIS in almost every implementation, others obviously don't and i feel this was the case when the reviewer sat down with this title, not saying the score would have been any higher but i feel it may have been slightly more favourable.
  • 0 thumbs!
    teodortenchev | August 31, 2007
    I can't agree with IGN this time. The story seems interesting and worth checking out. Even if the controls are that bad, this game deserves more. And I think I would like it a lot.
  • -3 thumbs!
    Final Blade | August 31, 2007
    Like i said b4 i'll say it again just cause someone rates it as 6/10 or 4.9/10 doesn't make this a fact rating. Hell next week we could see gamersquad or gamefaqs to rate this 9.5/10. I mean disliking the six axis controls are one thing but rate it below average when this game is looking very promising is just plain stupid. Its not even out yet, and people are labeling it as a horrible game.
    • 0 thumbs!
      tallteen86 | August 31, 2007
      What they SHOULD have done, is at least give people the option of using Analog stick control...

      I mean come on, MANDATORY SIXAXIS control? Thats not smart for a game like this >_>

      I won't get this game...why? Because I HATE controlling characters with Sixaxaxis...sure, its fine in some games (like Super Rub a Dub and stuff), but the New Goblin in the Spiderman 3 game? Geh, its horrible trying to control him with the Sixaxis...

      If they just gave people the OPTION of Analog control, it wouldn't be rated so low >_>

      Some graphical/textural problems like mentioned, are ignorable...what, in their (and others) opinion, is a crappy control scheme, is NOT something you can just ignore...
      • -2 thumbs!
        Final Blade | August 31, 2007
        Analog has nothing to do with the game though. And guess what there isn't a rumble controller out yet so thats why its a mandatory thing for six-axis.
        • 0 thumbs!
          Zero and X | August 31, 2007
          What the hell does rumble have to do with six-axis being madatory or not!? That makes zero sense.
        • -1 thumbs!
          Final Blade | September 01, 2007
          Read what he said b4 about analog, usually that refers to rumble. Its not like you use the analog for anything else other than walking.

          My point is whats that got to do with six axis being mandatory.
        • 0 thumbs!
          Team Xtreme | September 01, 2007
          Because you can control movements with the addition of a rumble feature...
  • -3 thumbs!
    Revenger of Wastelan | August 31, 2007
    LMAO i know this game would suck...
  • 1 thumbs!
    Incidnia | August 31, 2007
    I've tried using the sixaxis' motion sensors in games like Motorstorm and it is very, very tricky, I personally hate it. I don't feel moving the controller in different directions actually adds any impact to gaming, it just makes it really difficult and annoying. Making a game which only has the motion control is a stupid ass idea to be honest. I thought this game looked alright until I found out this.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Coi Cki | August 31, 2007
    Well, it's all about how well the devs can implement the control scheme into the game. MotorStorm is an example of bad implementation of the SIXAXIS into a game. I loved using it on F1CE. It was tricky at first, but after a while, i didn't want to go back to using the analog stick to steer the cars.

    The SIXAXIS is something new, different, so af course it will take time for people to get used to it. So, i am still going to buy Lair, one of my main reasons being the fact, that it's using the SIXAXIS..
  • 0 thumbs!
    Miller | August 31, 2007
    Wouldn't expect any high for a Panzer Dragoon clone tbh.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Jeterocks | August 31, 2007
    quote
    Like i said b4 i'll say it again just cause someone rates it as 6/10 or 4.9/10 doesn't make this a fact rating. Hell next week we could see gamersquad or gamefaqs to rate this 9.5/10. I mean disliking the six axis controls are one thing but rate it below average when this game is looking very promising is just plain stupid.
    If you bothered reading the full review you would see it isn't JUST the Sixaxis (though it is a fair amount). He complained about a "chugging frame rate" and other graphic flaws...as well as complimenting others.

    quote
    Its not even out yet, and people are labeling it as a horrible game.
    You do know that the game the guy tested was the final version...IGN and other company's get the final game before it gets released so they can review them...it may not be out for you and I but what he reviewed was the final product.

    I do know that now, after reading all the bad reviews, I am not picking up this game.
    • -3 thumbs!
      Final Blade | August 31, 2007
      Why? Screw the bad reviews hell i can make some right now for every game but guess what its an opinion and not all of them are true. I can't wait for this game to make millions and be rated over 8/10 it would put a big smile on me and make bad reviewers look stupid.

      There is some people out there who dislike halo and bioshock saying it sucks but we all know its not. That guy doesn't know jack about games. He may like a different genre for all we know, this article is a load of crap anyway.
      • -1 thumbs!
        Vito Raliffe | August 31, 2007
        In reference to one of your previous comments:

        "Its not even out yet, and people are labeling it as a horrible game."

        You're right, it isn't out yet, so how can you label it as an awesome game? By what you're saying, that simply isn't possible...

        Just because someone gives a game a bad score doesn't automatically make them a bad reviewer, it just means they have a different opinion from you. If I rated Halo 2 a 7 while everyone else gave it a 9, it would just mean my opinion differs and that I have more issues with the game than others, nothing more. If the reviewer didn't know "jack" about games, he wouldn't be making his living by *bleep*ing playing them.


        I am still excited about trying Lair out. I hope I like it better than what the other reviews are suggesting.
        • 0 thumbs!
          Final Blade | September 01, 2007
          Um If you don't know why its awesome then its no use explaining. Reviewers don't rate a game well some rate over opinion rather than facts. I would like factual ratings than not.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Linkin Park Fan | August 31, 2007
    Sony needs to get the demo out more then ever now.
    • -1 thumbs!
      iLLmatic | August 31, 2007
      Why? So everyone else can play a shitty game and not buy it? Why is everyone defending a game they never played before? How can you say the game deserved a higher rating? lol...none of you have played it. You could play it later and like it, but that doesn't change these false pretenses some of you are coming up with.
      • 0 thumbs!
        volacide | August 31, 2007
        Some people have played it though, I believe it might have even been LPF who played it at some kind of event held by Sony.

        Besides, why shouldn't demos be released of all games, good or bad? People are always going to still buy those games that are considered "bad" and they might genuinely enjoy them too.

        I'm still holding out on my opinion. I don't hate SIXAXIS but I don't love it either. I want to use it in Warhawk but I know I'd get *bleep*ed up online if I did so I think I might give Lair a try and see.
        • 0 thumbs!
          Ameer | September 01, 2007
          It was Joshthegreat who played it a couple of months ago.

          I'll wait to see what you say about it in the PS3 forum.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Linkin Park Fan | August 31, 2007
    Thats why im saying we need a demo! So we can play it and see if we like it. I mean 4.9 is pretty bad. I want to know if that is true if it deserves it. But I would rather play a demo then regret paying 60 dollars.
  • -3 thumbs!
    twilightprince | August 31, 2007
    Wow, one of Sony's best exclusives turns out to be a major bust.

    Why am I not surprised.
    • 0 thumbs!
      Seeker X | August 31, 2007
      Don't be a jackass, out of all the current exclusives this is the lowest one, so you SHOULD be surprised, dick.
      • 0 thumbs!
        twilightprince | September 01, 2007
        Nice language.

        Dude, I have a PS3, and this was one of the exclusives I was highly anticipating. (along with Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, MGS4)

        First Heavenly Sword gets negative reviews, and now this. I'm getting tired of all these Sony 'big holiday hitters' turning out to be busts. I swear, if Uncharted turns out to be bad, I will go crazy.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Storm | August 31, 2007
    Damn, 4.9? If only that had been out of 5 I'm not a fan of SIXAXIS. Blame Spider-Man 3's control with that New Goblin guy...they forgot to mention the side effect of wrist pain with that game.

    I'll admit I wasn't going to get Lair...at least not this year.
  • -1 thumbs!
    Silver Mirror | August 31, 2007
    Game developers need to realise that the SixAxis is a side effect, a extra, not something which the whole game should be based on (like the driving in Motorstorm), the developers should have put in the option to use the analogue sticks, still after seeing this they might add it in a update.

    And by the way some sites have given Lair 7 or even 8 out of 10, so until you play it everyone just top saying how awesome its going to be or how its going to suck because we won't know until we play it
    • 0 thumbs!
      Final Blade | September 01, 2007
      Exactly my point, what you said last. But we shouldn't even take this rating with a grain of salt of being true.
  • -1 thumbs!
    Sort | September 01, 2007
    LOL at one of the PS3's fall big-hitters getting trashed in the reviews. That's awesome.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Solid Snake 4Life | September 01, 2007
    My friend just traded his ps3 with another of my friends for his 360. Why? He just can't stay with it when 2 big name games in what a matter of weeks get called average and even less.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Linkin Park Fan | September 01, 2007
    2 big games? Last time I checked Lair was the only big ps3 game that got bad reviews.
    quote
    LOL at one of the PS3's fall big-hitters getting trashed in the reviews. That's awesome.
    Are you seriously praising the failure of a game? Whats wrong with you?
  • 0 thumbs!
    Silver Mirror | September 01, 2007
    quote
    LOL at one of the PS3's fall big-hitters getting trashed in the reviews
    And of course that has never happened with the 360 or Wii either? 'cough' Perfect Dark 'cough' Red Steel 'cough'
  • 0 thumbs!
    Solid Snake 4Life | September 01, 2007
    Heavenly sword also had fallen to average. PLus Red Steel got a 6 which is 1.1 points over this.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Linkin Park Fan | September 01, 2007
    Heavenly sword had 3 bad reviews. And they weren't even bad. IGN US gave it 7. IGN UK gave it 7. EDGE gave it 6. And EDGE is a very harsh magazine. Everyone else gave the game a 8+
  • 0 thumbs!
    Seeker X | September 01, 2007
    quote
    LOL at one of the PS3's fall big-hitters getting trashed in the reviews. That's awesome.
    Same can be said of Two Worlds

    lol you.

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