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Yet another idiot's opinion: Gamers need to grow up and stop being children!

Gothic Girl | February 04, 2008 | News | PC Playstation 2 Company 
Oh hooray, yet another shallow-minded idiot who has never touched a video game feels the need to bash them. You thought Cooper Lawrence was bad? Kate Muir is worse.
Despite doing a bit of "research" on the matter (i.e. Asking her kids), Muir believes that there is a serious epidemic taking over the world: Men are choosing to to live as children and play games, instead of being responsible adults. She wants them to grow up! Yes, that's right, according to Mrs Muir, men who play video games can't possibly be responsible adults with devoted wives and loving children. And god forbid a woman plays video games too, that's unquestionable!

Ironic that the article is called "the dark ages". That seems to be the era Mrs Muir is living in.

It's nice to know that, for every idiot who mindlessly bashes a video game, there is someone there to defend them.

Read the comments at the source for some responses to Kate Muir's article. Let's hopeshe pays attention to her Comments section. It might open her eyes a bit.
At my college evening class last week, two intelligent, thirtysomething suited guys – solicitors or managers to judge from their e-mail addresses – were talking about their new Xbox 360s and what transcendent joy was to be had from them. I eavesdropped more attentively. Apparently, in Gears of War, the smallest details of the largest battles were crystal clear, in widescreen! Surely they were discussing their children’s computer games? Xboxes are toys, after all.

Further chat revealed the professional gentlemen were childless. The Xboxes were toys for very big boys indeed. Worried, I went unto Google and retrieved this trend for you: Nielsen Media Research surveyed American men aged 18 to 34 and found 48 per cent of them had used a games console recently, and on average, it was for 2 hours 43 minutes per day. Yes, half of not-so-young men spend nearly three hours a day gaming.

It’s worse than grown men building Hornby 00-gauge train sets in their attics, or constructing battles with painted toy soldiers. Only a few men did that, in secret, but now everyone is celebrating their inner geek.

But the games addiction is only a symptom of the extended childhood of the 21st-century hominid. Marriage, families and children are being delayed for as long as possible, replaced by conspiratorial flatmates and microwaved gastropub ready meals. Italian men stay at home with their mother; the British and Americans want to lead a life like an endless episode of Friends.
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  • 2 thumbs!
    StarJet | February 05, 2008
    gee. what are m rated and ao rated games for? little children? i think not. grow up, she says. she better grow out of her extremely narrow mind.
  • 2 thumbs!
    Jak66 | February 05, 2008
    I play video games every day, and a lot of hours with them as well. Yet I am still a very responsible person, and am very mature and adult-like for my age. She sounds to be a little sexist in this matter. She can say men are immature children. I could just very well say women are brainless cows.

    Drop the topic and leave it dropped.
  • 0 thumbs!
    tallteen86 | February 05, 2008
    quote Hmmm
    At my college evening class last week, two intelligent, thirtysomething suited guys � solicitors or managers to judge from their e-mail addresses
    Sounds like jobs that people who are 'children' can't do >_>

    She is being unreasonable, making assumptions based on what would equate to no research (statistics of who plays games?), and making said assumptions based on her OPINIONS on what gaming is (a childish thing)....Forgive me, but I don't see much anything 'childish' about Gears of War >_>

    There are two types of people like this...Those like Jack Thompson, who assume games are murder simulators brainwashing people into being violent, emotionless killing machines. And there are people who are like this, who think it is a childish past time...

    Again, last I checked, games like Gears of War (and other M rated games) are anything but childish...it isn't even LEGAL to sell said games to children >_>

    It is no different than movies (albeit, interactive ones)....Some games are suited for children, some are meant for teens, and some for adults...and there are various genres so everyone can find something they'd like...

    In a way, it is no different than if she subbed in 'movie watching' for 'gaming' >_>

    In other words, this is another high minded individual who things she is morally superior to others, and feels she needs to 'educate' other people in the 'right way', which is her way >_>

    In other words, she's an ignorant moron who is just assuming she knows what she is talking about...
  • 2 thumbs!
    TurMoiL911 | February 05, 2008
    Kate Muir: The next Cooper Lawerence. Just as long as Muir doesn't appear on Fox News, I think we're okay for now.

    And holy shit, what's this about video games aren't for adults. My uncle's 30 and he bought a Wii a few months ago. Does that make him childish ? *bleep* no, he's one of the most reliable and responsible people in my life.
  • 0 thumbs!
    tallteen86 | February 05, 2008
    I posted what I said here (as much as I could, considering the text limit) on that site...

    Hopefully it will be seen (and not deleted) >_>
  • 2 thumbs!
    Play ISDF | February 05, 2008
    There's one thing I must say. It's pretty simple. Wanna know what it is? *bleep*. You. Kate Muir. If it wasn't for the one swear word per comment thing, I would say something like that a few times...but there is a limit. Come on, all gamers are kids and don't know how to be adults? How can she even say that when she hasn't even met 1% of the gamers in the world. Seriously, the Queen has played the Wii and enjoyed it, is she a kid? I don't think so considering she's a Q-U-E-E-N.

    This is a narrow-minded, sexist, idiotic and completely unfounded opinion that I feel needs a serious owning. Gaming community, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO WHAT YOU DID TO COOPER! GO! Dreams aside, Kate does seriously need a wake up call, as do quite a few other people apparently. Hell I want to know just how the hell people like this ever get attention by anyone. It's just bullshit. Anyway all I know is this kind of crap really has to stop. It truly is getting out of hand, especially with what apparently seems to have been a bombardment of crap lately.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Final Blade | February 05, 2008
    Just cause they play games, doesn't mean they aren't adults, lots of Video games players, like my self, are adults and are responsible. Not playing games doesn't change this fact. If they aren't adults when playing games, they aren't going to be without playing them.

    Get your head out of your rear Kate Muir.
  • 5 thumbs!
    Silent Storm | February 05, 2008
    This woman is ignorant and just plain dense. Nuff said.
  • 0 thumbs!
    vaga_koleso | February 05, 2008
    Oh joy. What can I say, the Universe never fails to amaze me in its ability to keep building bigger and better idiots.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Silver Mirror | February 05, 2008
    What's her email address? Let's teach her lesson

    Seriouly though she is in the league of Jack Thompson for idiocy
    • 3 thumbs!
      Gothic Girl | February 05, 2008
      Funnily enough, she has put her e-mail adress at the bottom of her article.
      • 0 thumbs!
        StarJet | February 05, 2008
        She's out of her damned mind! Ha!
      • 0 thumbs!
        Storm | February 05, 2008
        Oh dear, that certainly was smart of her.
        They pretend to be smart, yet they aren't open-minded at all. Guess they are going to join a rally with Thompson.
  • 1 thumbs!
    kinglank | February 05, 2008
    This is just bs. So kate thinks i'm a child and can't be married or have kids. Oh wait a min i do have kids and i got married last year and i have a ps3 so what does that make me?
    • 1 thumbs!
      kik36 | February 05, 2008
      I'm with you....I'm 31 (God did I just admit that?!) I have beautiful twin daughters and 2 step sons who are all 5 and below. My girls are only 15 months so I am still in the diaper changing, hand feeding stages.....and I take care of them by myself while their mother is at work. We have 3 DS's in my family, 3 PS2's, a PSP and a PS3. All this and I SOMEHOW manage to make it to work every day and perform my duties as a field service rep for a large Avionics company. Not sure how I do it since the games make me a mindless child.......but we manage. ~.^
  • 0 thumbs!
    black doom | February 05, 2008
    I hate it when people call the Wii a toy so you can imagine how insane with rage I am to have the whole industry regarded in that way. The woman is a fool, I shall waste no further words on the topic.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Silver Mirror | February 05, 2008
    I posted a comment and sent her a email, I suggest everyone else do the same. Don't be immature though
  • 0 thumbs!
    tallteen86 | February 05, 2008
    Didn't send her an e-mail, and it seems my comment hasn't been posted >_>

    Either they refused it, or it has simply not yet been processed >_>
  • 0 thumbs!
    Woudo | February 05, 2008
    People need to realise that they simply can't bash the gaming industry. Unless gamers agree, they won't get away with it, we're to strong. Besides, until someone bashes the gaming industry with a DECENT argument, we're invincible.
  • 0 thumbs!
    dragoshi1 | February 05, 2008
    This woman is now TAGGED, like thompson.


    EVERYONE plays games, if their is a person who has never touched a game or PC,then you are ANCIENT!
    • 0 thumbs!
      Gothic Girl | February 07, 2008
      Even "Ancient" people play gams. It's quite common for Nurshing Homes to have game consoles because games keep the patient's minds active and slows down the effects of Alzheimers (sp?).

      So that put sKate Muir in a WHOLE different category.
  • 1 thumbs!
    bbb7002004 | February 05, 2008
    I don't know, she may have a point. Real men do things like watch sports (Men getting paid millions of dollars to play what amounts to children's games), or gambling (also a game), or going to strip clubs (real mature). [/sarcasm]

    Kate Muir opinion = phail.
  • 0 thumbs!
    SvR2008 | February 05, 2008
    Lol, Its funny how stupid she is
  • 1 thumbs!
    Seeker X | February 05, 2008
    Gee, she sure showed us...there's a couple of things she's missing though....like a basis for her *bleep*ing argument, for one.

    I see a trend of frustrated housewives trying to band together to take down Gaming for some reason.
  • 0 thumbs!
    slumpy monkey | February 05, 2008
    This bitch needs a good talking too.

    Why the *bleep* is she to tell grown men what they can and cant do in their spare time. Maby she should grow up and except the fact that people like dfferent things. Stupid whore.


    RANT OVER
  • 0 thumbs!
    Blackfalcon | February 05, 2008
    Wow. What a stupid dope. All she proved with saying what she said is that she's a nosy b****.
  • 0 thumbs!
    redneonfish | February 05, 2008
    My history teacher is a gamer, we've got his Xbox Live name
  • 0 thumbs!
    vaga_koleso | February 05, 2008
    Yeah, I am sorry to say, but this woman's biological clock is likely to keep ticking alone for a looong time unless she decides to actually open up her mind a crack...
  • 1 thumbs!
    djjimmy2k2 | February 05, 2008
    oh yeah, god forbid that games should help people with their lives and allow them to have fun and relieve the stress of work and whatnot.

    im 22, i have a pretty serious illness that stops me from getting a job, going to uni or anything, and i play games on my PC every single day. gaming has helped me get through the hard times and allowed me to do something fun and even vaguely constructive. if idiots like this had their way i would most likely have commited suicide a long time ago.

    these pathetic inbreds need to do proper research and not just decide with no evidence that videogaming is responsible for all the evils in the world.

    whats to blame for for wars? gaming. what makes serial killers kill? gaming. whats responsible for a mother suffocating her newborn baby? gaming.

    *bleep* them all.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Sonic Flash | February 05, 2008
    I'm not sure why everyone allowed themselves to get worked up over this. I read it, made some careful observations, and realized that it was one (stupid) woman's article posted for viewing on the TimesOnline Women's section under Life & Style. Such related features linked to it included:

    - Why women love (and I hate) rugby players
    - Where have all the men gone?
    and - Stilettos take women’s sex life to higher level

    At this point you might be cooling down, realizing "Oh... they're all idiots stuck inside their ivory tower bubbles...", which you should have realized sooner. Their grip on society is loose at best and they seem to feel that men are some large mystery (we aren't). Becoming annoyed at this article means that you're giving her FAR too much credit.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Linkin Park Fan | February 05, 2008
    Does anyone else think that people are just attacking video games just so they can get some attention and they think its an easy subject to make themselves seem smart?
  • 0 thumbs!
    ZhaoYun88 | February 06, 2008
    Who gives a monkeys what she says, i have my life, she has hers, she should keep her mouth shut and let people live lifes how they want, i go on video games, not all the time but yeah i do, its good, its entertaining, if it makes you happy for the time being then so be it, stuff what she says, stupid slut, what gives her the right to tell people how to live there lives?
  • 0 thumbs!
    UltimaSnake | February 09, 2008
    There isn't anything wrong with playing gaming consoles. No matter what the age.

    Take games like Silent Hill for example and all the effort that goes into them, surely it's not aimed at just 10yr olds. Plus the fact that most good games nowadays are 15 and up. Old guys looking at pictures of young kids is what you want to be worrying about, y'know lol

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