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Wii Pay and Play - one of Nintendo's cleverest ever moves?

shuandrew | February 23, 2008 | News | Wii Game Developers Conference 2008 
Nintendic explains why (through documenting Nintendo's online and general tactics within the industry since the launch of the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection in 2005) why the announcement and future roll out of Wii Pay and Play could be one of the firm's cleverest ever business decisions.
This year’s Game Developer’s conference was a fairly quiet affair where Nintendo was concerned, but if there was one announcement that was going to ruffle the feathers of players, it was the confirmation that the firm would - after years of offering it for nothing - be charging players for the privilege of playing certain Wii titles online thanks to Wii Pay and Play.

Although many see this as Nintendo jumping late onto a bandwagon that they surely couldn’t afford to miss, could making the decision at this point in time in particular, as well as factoring in some of the firm’s pre-existing marketing tactics, be one of the cleverest it has ever made?
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    TwilightPrince | February 23, 2008
    Well, if this means that we'll actually start to see some MMOs on the Wii, then sign me up. But if they're gonna charge us for the crappy (friend code) online service they've been outputting for years, then count me out.

    Maybe this is a confirmation of the Animal Crossing MMO we've been hearing about? Or how about a Zelda MMO?
  • 3 thumbs!
    VeGiTAX2 | February 23, 2008
    The problem with the response to the announcement is the immediate assumption that this is strictly a Nintendo item.

    As Twilightprince stated, this pretty much stands as an open gateway to subscription model gaming with an actual storefront for companies to use. Games like Guitar Hero and Rockband can offer DLC to gamers without having to design a specific outlet for how people can purchase the music for their games, given that companies are already for pay content, it makes sense that Nintendo would need to figure out how to cater to this.

    Although really I can't say I'd be first up for seeing Sega make yet another online Phantasy Star property at this point. @_x
    • 1 thumbs!
      Sonic Flash | February 24, 2008
      I tired myself out yelling at the last thread. ;__;

      The article is informative.
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    Pyrazor | February 23, 2008
    I can't say it's a great idea. It makes sense for consoles that use a wired connection but charging for wireless seems foolish. Especially with the amount of traffic Brawl and subsequent titles will bring.
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      TwilightPrince | February 23, 2008
      Brawl's online play will still be free.

      Nintendo WFC is still free. Pay & Play is a seperate online service that will allow us to download additional content for games (such as Guitar Hero) and hopefully play MMOs on the Wii.
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    DiamondMaster11 | February 24, 2008
    I don't care if we're getting better games or not. I won't be able to play online in Pay-to-Play games, because my parents barely let me pay money to download from the Wii Shop Channel.
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    Twisted | February 24, 2008
    Actually, now that I think about it, it would be fair if they made us pay for MMOs, if it's just like a total online game. I just hope they don't start charging for game like Animal Crossing Wii, or Mario Kart Wii.
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    Vermillion | February 24, 2008
    A big dissapointment. I have been liking Nintendo for having all kind of accesible services for free, now this ruins everything and it is abuse of trust from their part. They know that many people play online because they like it, and they decide to add a profit to it. Honestly if they want "money" this is the worse method, since Brawl will give them more than enough.

    Edit 1: Seems that I'm getting thumbed down for a misunderstanding, so I will rewrite everything below:

    It is dissapointing for me. There's no point on making this, it's not that they need "money", since Brawl (I KNOW IT WILL STILL BE FREE) will give them more than enough.
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      Soul79 | February 24, 2008
      Brawl, Mario Kart, as well as many other games in the near future will still be free. Features such as downloadable content will not.
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      VeGiTAX2 | February 24, 2008
      It's not a misunderstanding, it's a lack of your comprehension of the addition. There is a difference there, knowing it would have saved you time and bad ratings.

      Games such as MMO's and DLC games like Rockband and Guitar Hero often rely on pay to play models so that users can access additional content, given the control around the Wii and the Wii Channels it seems as if it hasn't been an easy task of providing 3rd parties the tools they need for effective pricing on such things.

      Opening the floor of your platform to new additions by yourself or by others doesn't stand to harm things because the additions either would have been made or they wouldn't have, and in the case of MMO titles and DLC, chances are it would have never arrived without a pay model.

      Spare us the "companies have more than enough money" statement, Sega, EA, Sony, MS, Square, THQ, NCSoft, Blizzard, Activision and others aren't in it for the greater good, they want money to continue developing and delivering content to you.

      So until you realize that, you'll continue to be rated down.
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        Mario_1 | February 24, 2008
        Don't put down Sei and/or his comments. He raises as good a point as anyone else in this collection of comments. He didn't misunderstand anything, and it's no-one's place to belittle him in any way.
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          VeGiTAX2 | February 25, 2008
          He raises a good point? Lets examine that one for kicks.

          "A big dissapointment. I have been liking Nintendo for having all kind of accesible services for free, now this ruins everything and it is abuse of trust from their part."

          Odd, they still offer a free system and plan to continue to support it. It ruins nothing because they're not suddenly taking games they own and making them pay for them. Abuse of trust? Nintendo isn't your best friend for 12 years that bought you an ice cream cone, they're a corporate entity and all those 3rd parties behind them are as well. This is an industry not a BFF circle.

          " They know that many people play online because they like it, and they decide to add a profit to it. "

          Where? Are they suddenly charging for Brawl? no. They're not. 3rd parties have been charging for online services for ages, this is nothing new, on top of that it's overly obvious they want to make a profit from it or the Wii Shop Channel would have never existed.

          "Honestly if they want "money" this is the worse method, since Brawl will give them more than enough."

          Tell that to Blizzard, NCSoft, Sega, Activision, EA and others that wanted to have a pay system made available to provide bonus content and dedicated servers for their online gaming. Nintendo isn't going to come out of pocket to pay all those companies off, thinking they would is foolish. Brawl is a single title, this isn't 1995, single titles don't carry companies for 5-10 years anymore. The operating cost of the company dwarfs the profit from Brawl.

          I mean honestly try to pinpoint the sales figure for a given single title and explain how that's going to fund an international electronics corporation. Brawl giving them more than enough? Really now join everyone with modern economics and business operating costs.
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      Twisted | February 24, 2008
      lol Sei.
      I still don't see the problem with game you have to pay for that are only online, but if they start doing it to other bitg games, I will be pissed.
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    Xegaldis | February 24, 2008
    So, we have to pay to play online?
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      VeGiTAX2 | February 24, 2008
      If a developer makes a title where they want you to pay for certain aspects then yes. For the most part though it seems most will still use the free system.

      Just don't expect any game that has DLC packs or that is an MMO type game to be free. The last time a company footed the bill was probably Sega with the original PSO for the Dreamcast.
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      ConkerASkyJockey | February 24, 2008
      No, Wi-Fi free is still there. Only that Pay-to-play allows you to download things (such as Guitar Hero songs) over the internet.
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    Justinsfriend | February 24, 2008
    Wow, we payed for the Wii, and now we have to pay just to go online? holy, this is the first time I say Nintendo's Whacked.
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      VeGiTAX2 | February 25, 2008
      Nice that your avatar accurately depicts the quality of your post.

      Try to read up on the comments noting Nintendo Wifi Connect still is going to be free but as an added option for DLC games like Rockband and Guitar Hero they'll finally have a paid storefront system to use. On top that MMO gaming will have pricing models introduced to the platform.

      Nice to see people not realizing that these titles have been Pay to play on other consoles and haven't offered said content on the Wii yet. That if you had a PS2 and EQ or FFXI you needed to pay monthly to use the services.

      RTFA people.
    • 1 thumbs!
      Twisted | February 25, 2008
      When you see something like this, don't just jump to conclusions. It's quite funny how people don't actually read the articles.
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    Remino52 | February 27, 2008
    Well who knows how it will turn out.Once we can we should try for like a month or something.

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