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50GB Blu-Ray Disc Is Not Enough For MGS4!

ITANI | March 02, 2008 | News | Playstation 3

An exclusive interview with Hideo Koijima, the creator of the Metal Gear Solid series complains that 50GB is still not enough and have exceeded the capacity which led the team of developers to compress sections of the game to save disc space.

Kojima: I am not satisfied with the quality yet, however...there isn't enough space.

Interviewer: Not enough space..on..Blu-ray..?

Kojima: Yes.(laughs). Not enough space.

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StarJet | March 02, 2008

WTF? No space on BluRay? Is MGS4 the ultimate and biggest game of all time?

~StarJet
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redneonfish | March 02, 2008

Yeah, so does this mean you can't complete it in 5 hours, like you can the others? Wow, can't wait
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Incidnia | March 02, 2008

Holy Crap. Haha! I suppose this game is much bigger than we thought. And to be fair MGS3 was much longer than 5 hours.
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  redneonfish | March 02, 2008
  
  6 then There was a rank if you complete it in under 5 hours.
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Jeterocks | March 02, 2008

I read something a few days ago about pretty much the same thing. On the US version of the game they had to leave off the Japanese Voice over because it simply would not fit on the disk.

Pre-Ordering my copy today
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Zero and X | March 02, 2008

What the hell!? How 50 GIGABYTES NOT ENOUGH!?!?!?!?
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TheComedyGuy | March 02, 2008

I thought BD were bigger than 50GB?
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  TheComedyGuy | March 02, 2008
  
  Deleted.........................
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jmac353 | March 02, 2008

Weird, this article seems to make no mention of the audio being the largest space eater. I've read about 2 other articles I didn't feel were GameGrep worthy that talked about the reason for them not being able to fit absolutely everything on the disc was because BD didn't have enough space to fit both English and Japanese VOs on 1 universal disc.

It makes sense since MGS is known for their long and copious amounts of dialogue. It's not that each version of MGS4 won't be region universal, it's just that if you buy it in the US you're going to get english VOs and if you buy it in Japan you're going to get Japanese VOs. You can still import it from Japan if you must have those Japanese VOs and it'll work on your American PS3.
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  VeGiTAX2 | March 02, 2008
  
  Indeed so, I was wondering about that, given that many games are stepping into lossless audio encoding, CBR tracks for audio versus the less time consuming VBR. Yeah it sounds amazing at that level but you also eat up your space in a flash.
  
  Given that MGS has tried to be a cinematic title for so long, it's not really suprising to see they hit a wall in the game for this aspect of things.
  
  GG to those in here that were like "OMG T3H GRAPHIX R SO HUGE LOL @ PC AND OTHER CONSOLES" even with normal mapping you wouldn't eat up 50GB of space. FFS try to pretend to be educated people.
  - 0 thumbs!
    jmac353 | March 02, 2008
    
    Indeed. People don't realize just how efficient visual resources are getting. Sure, they do take up their fair share, but people that think that graphics take up like 90% of the disc space need to go educate themselves.
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Mnmfan | March 02, 2008

I doubt the lack of space has anything to do with the length of the game. Over half of the disc will probably be cutscenes.
This is MGS after all. This is going to be a massive, long, drawn out movie like MGS2. It's still going to be great though. Just don't expect it to be massive because it's taking up 50GB.
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  iLLmatic | March 02, 2008
  
  They did say the game is pretty long though. I think it was Ryan Payton, from another interview.
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Storm | March 02, 2008

Woah, guess they are going over the top with this last game, go out with a bang. If one BD wouldn't have been enough, why not make it a two-disc?
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  Subzer0 | March 02, 2008
  
  Exactly my thought. I would prefer 2 disks rather than one compressed BD but whatever.
  
  It is hard to believe though that 50GB is not enough.
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Blackfalcon | March 02, 2008

If he isn't happy with 50GB, what size did he WANT it to be???
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  Subzer0 | March 02, 2008
  
  Good question. 50GB imo is huge as it is.
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Stitch | March 02, 2008

Wow, I understand why this is an PS3 exclusive.
Kojima is really trying to go to the edge of it, or maybe even go over it.
- 1 thumbs!
  VeGiTAX2 | March 02, 2008
  
  Since the news has been leaning it to be an audio item, the going to the edge comment is more or less him using as close to raw sourcing as possible for his audio files. In general for basic CD quality ripped straight to un-compressed wave files you get your audio at around 60MB per file for a few minutes of sound. This isn't multi-channel, 24bit/96Hz audio using DTS or Dolby Digital spec sourcing. Once you really start mastering toward these higher end levels of audio, your consumption rate jumps. Given how cinematic the game thrives to be, it's not really shocking that if he's not compressing the audio he ran out of space.
  
  It's like including raw DV stock on the disc and being suprised that after 3 tapes you're out of space on your disc.
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Naruto Boy | March 02, 2008

Wow 50GB isn't enough? Thats crazy, awesome game though.
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Sereph | March 02, 2008

Isn't like 90% of that space taken up by audio though?

Say hello to 3 hour cutscenes then.
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The Primagen | March 02, 2008

Theres a word for this..

Wow.
2 thumbs!
Mario_1 | March 02, 2008

-Vegeta! What does the scouter say about MGS4's power level?

-IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAND!
- 1 thumbs!
  Storm | March 02, 2008
  
  Hahaha.
  Why did Mario get - for this?
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    VeGiTAX2 | March 03, 2008
    
    Maybe the youtube vid has been done on the viewers a bit too much.
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shaka | March 02, 2008

Best game of 2008.
doesnt matter if its in a UMD 1.7 gb disk or a DL 50gb disk,
the game is going to be a master piece and Hideo Kojima is a god, already have this game pre-order.
1 thumbs!
Avalith | March 02, 2008

Wait, Kojima couldn't fit everything he wanted on one Blu-Ray disc?

...Wow.
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BANDITO ATTACK | March 03, 2008

lol. i always skip the cutscenes.
1 thumbs!
Seeker X | March 03, 2008

I've heard that they were working on making footsteps SOUND different as well, don't know if that's true, but it's perfection nonetheless.
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tallteen86 | March 05, 2008

Yeah, I head a while ago, about not having other country's language tracks....

So long as there are English subtitles on my North American release, I'm happy (Need the subs, my hearing isn't so good)....