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Sam Houser : Games aren't getting smaller. The next GTA could be a squeeze on the 360.

April 23, 2008 in News comments 13

We already know that GTA IV is 6 GB, unfortunately for Microsoft. And that does fit very well on a Dual Layer DVD. Now the thing is, games don't get smaller. Nor do they remain at the same size. This "do not remain at the same size" factor could very well be a problem for the 360, according to Rockstar co-founder Sam Houser.

He says that the next GTA would have to be tightly squeezed into a DVD. But this does in fact bring some good news. That is, Rockstar seems to be already working on the next GTA.

GTA IV isn’t even out yet and Rockstar are talking about the future and what’s next for their games. Sam Houser, co-founder of Rockstar, has been speaking on the trials and tribulations on working with both consoles and how that’s going to impact future development.

Speaking to 1up.com Houser commented, “One of the problems with the 360, and it affects games like Grand Theft Auto if you think about how much content we put in the actual machine, is the fact that they don’t have a significantly larger storage medium than the previous systems. It’s a slightly bigger DVD disc.”

Considering that the average DVD holds less than 10GB of storage, and coupled with the fact that some 360’s don’t have a hard drive at all, it seems there could be a whole lot of data out on the street looking for a home.
StarJet via thatvideogameblog.com »
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  • -1
    chautemoc Apr 24, 08
    Sounds like a similar complaint to Kojima's about the PS3 not being able to match the scope of his vision..I can't help but think about what these masterminds are going to accomplish on the next generation of systems. Mmmmmmmmm.
  • -2
    iLLmatic Apr 24, 08
    Well then just make it exclusive for PS3.
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      Seeker X Apr 24, 08
      This comment is obviously a joke and should not be taken seriously but still I should thumb it down because it offended the idiot fanboy that I am.
      • -1
        Final Blade Apr 25, 08
        Its not a joke and he brings up a good point. GTA4 was supposed to be a timed exclusive for PS3, since all GTA games were like that, and the fact the install base wasn't very big. By the time They half way through making GTA5 or whatever it may be the PS3 install base will double and it would make sense for them to make it exclusive. Now im not trying to be a fanboy, but think of what they can do with GTA on blu-ray and it being exclusive? It can literally turn into uncompress GTA goodness and add a shit load of stuff.

        @chautemoc there's a difference between those games, Kojima was dreaming a little to big, this is just making a point where its not going to be th same size as before, they want to expand and make it bigger which may be a tight squeeze on the 8.5GB DVD9. Where as the PS3 BD doubled layered disc is 50GB it won't be a tightly squeeze. Like iLLmatic stated before he's being honest, which some have done.
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          Armed Rebel Apr 25, 08
          GTA4 was going to be released on the PS3 and 360 at the same time from the start. Shh.
        • 1
          StarJet Apr 25, 08
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          since all GTA games were like that
          Where on earth did you pick that up, Final Blade?
          Maybe you're talking about how GTAIII to GTASA came on PS2 first. But keep in mind that though the PS2 version came early, the PC and XBOX versions were also announced beforehand. So, that doesn't make it an exclusive.
        • 0
          chautemoc Apr 25, 08
          Ah, gotcha. I didnt know they were that big.
        • 0
          Final Blade Apr 25, 08
          Reading ftw. I said TIMED EXCLUSIVE Star, which means its going to be exclusive for a certain amount of time(lets say 2 months) before the other versions release.

          And no AR, it was going to be a Timed exclusive before, however since the Install base was abysmal at the time they realized it was better to release both of them at the same time. This has been known for months now, especially in the GTA4 forums.
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    Kyote Apr 24, 08
    yes but that doesn't mean that you cant get memory for it like i have an elite that provides you with 120GB and you can also but extra memory and of course everyone would for the next grand theft auto. also this would help xbox sales go up by customers having to buy more memory.
  • 1
    bbb7002004 Apr 24, 08
    Mr. Houser, your opinion = Fail. Every game console has a limited amount of storage, and always will. That is simply one of the constraints of video gaming that developers have to, and always have had to, program around to make the best of the current technology. The idea that Microsoft can or will do anything about the disc storage space in the near future is ludicrous. To begin with, the vast majority of games do not need all that space, and only games with gigantic budgets will ever even encroach on this limits at present. Microsoft would be idiotic to cater to only a few games for 360's entire lifecycle, especially with the cost of the technology to improve. Don't forget, add on disc drives and such have been around a long time, from the Sega CD, N64 DD, and even 360's HDDVD add on, and none have performed well at all on the market. And honestly, if Sonic's popularity in the 90's couldn't sell Sega CD's, I doubt GTA would do any better for 360. And since no one would buy the attachment, no VG publishers would support the technology, leaving it one big wasted effort.

    I would also point out that, along with a lack of strong titles, PS3's poor sales this generation has been due to the inclusion of Bluray with every player. Removing the Bluray drive from the design would have knocked $100 or more off the price tag, making it much more appealing to the gaming community.

    Everything has limits. Learning to get around those limits is what spurs on the greatest amount of creativity, not complaining about them.
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      iLLmatic Apr 24, 08
      I think everyone needs to get off the "fail" bullshit. All he said was that they probably cannot do as much as they would want to, given the console's constraints. There is only SO MUCH you can do to work around these limits. He's not complaining, he was just honest about how he feels, which other developers have already spoken about. No matter how much you "work around" the Wii, you are still extremely limited with the technology. If you cut out the Blu-Ray drive from the PS3, you can throw the exclusives out the door.
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    Slumpy monkey Apr 24, 08
    We already know that GTA IV is 6 GB, unfortunately for Microsoft. And that does fit very well on a Dual Layer DVD.

    wtf? DVD's can store 9 gigs?
    • -2
      Ekou Apr 24, 08
      More around 8.5gigs.

      If they can quad-layer bluray, why can't they just quad-layer DVDs?

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